Kickas.org Forums Ankylosing Spondylitis General Discussion #1 AS Web Support Group Do you believe there is a cure for AS?

I wonder if Bruno might consider offering a little swim with the fishes?

Cranks up the old fart phon-O-graph...

(scratchy sounds)

I'd like to be, under the sea
In an octopus' garden in the shade
He'd let us in, knows where we've been
in his octupus' garden, in the shade.

I'd ask my friends to come and see
An octopus' garden with me
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus' garden in the shade.

We would be warm, below the storm
In our little hideaway beneath the waves
Resting our head, on the sea bed
In an octopus' garden near a cave

We would sing and dance around
because we know we can't be found
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus' garden in the shade

We would shout and swim about
The coral that lies beneath the waves
(Lies beneath the ocean waves)
Oh what joy for every girl and boy
Knowing they're happy and they're safe
(Happy and they're safe)

We would be so happy you and me
No one there to tell us what to do
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus' garden with you
In an octupus' garden with you
In an octupus' garden with you.

Octopus' Garden
The Beatles

Best regards,

jcwinnie



Tastes great Less Filling

I believe that Ringo wrote that one, didn't he? I know that he sang it on the album it was in.

Of course I know who the Beatles were. I'm not that old.

George

AMEN

I like Steve's answer.......

I thought the answer was three (3)

No maybe that's the answer to life and everything.

What was the question???

Can we first have a proper diagnostics for AS? Cure comes next. I dont think there will be a cure for r a person who has gone undagnosed with active disease and has mechanical damage. Prior to the herb for cure, we want another litmus herb that will turn red on touching the person. Or, does your herb also reverse mechanical damage, that would be wonderful.

Ram

Now here's the secret.

I have a friend who studied Chinese medicine in Beijing, China for many years. She told me that there is a type of sea plant known as the sea cucumber, which produces a very potent extract that has been used by the Chinese to treat auto-immune diseases, like AS, for thousands of years. Those of you who suffer from AS may want to try the sea cucumber to see if it works for you. The sea cucumber is available in most Asian markets.
The Chinese has been very successful in treating various ailments that western medicines have not been able to treat or comprehend.

I personally suffer from AS since 14 years of age. After trying the sea cucumber for a year, I must say that I feel like a new-born baby again.

Here's the definition of Sea Cucumber from Encarta.

Sea Cucumber, soft-bodied, tubular echinoderm related to the starfish and the sea urchin. More than 1100 species of sea cucumbers exist; they range in length from 2 cm (0.8 in) to 2 m (6.5 ft) and dwell on seabeds throughout the world. Sea cucumbers differ from other echinoderms in being bilaterally rather than radially symmetrical. Their rubbery, warty bodies somewhat resemble a cucumber, hence the name. Their ossicles—small, bony structures—do not form supporting shells or external spines, as in other echinoderms, but remain embedded within the skin, are microscopic in size, and often number in the millions. Like other echinoderms, however, sea cucumbers have projecting tube feet, especially on the flat underside; they use the tube feet in making the sluggish caterpillarlike contractions by which they move. Sea cucumbers feed on microscopic organisms, which they sense and sweep up from the seabed with frondlike tentacles that branch out from the mouth. Many sea cucumbers also ingest mud and sand and, in a manner similar to that of earthworms, absorb the organic matter, egest the waste from the cloaca, and leave castings. Most sea cucumbers breathe by means of branched respiratory tubes, called trees, leading from the cloaca into the body cavity. Contractions of the cloaca force water into the respiratory trees, which empty the water into the body cavity; it mixes there with body fluids and supplies them with oxygen. Some species have so-called Cuvierian organs—cloacal enlargements of the respiratory trees—which are expelled when the animal is in danger. The sticky filaments of this discharge entangle and discourage predators. Some of the most common sea cucumbers are widely distributed in shallow waters and are characterized by branching tentacles. A well-known species, the brown sea cucumber, is about 13 cm (about 5 in) long and 4 cm (1.5 in) thick. About 400 deep-sea species have been identified, most of them flat and gelatinous and inhabiting depths of close to 3.2 km [2 ml]. Unlike the leathery shallow-water species, these sea cucumbers are able to swim by undulating special “veils” attached at the front and rear of the body. Sea cucumbers of about a dozen species that occur on coral reefs of the southwestern Pacific are known commercially as bêche-de-mer, or trepang; they are dried and used to make soups. Scientific classification: Sea cucumbers make up the class Holothuroidae, of the phylum Echinodermata. The brown sea cucumber is classified as Thyrone briareus.

HI Junable, thanks for letting us in on the mystery. Anything that makes an ASer feel better is worth looking into.

Is it taken in powder, liquid or capsule form, by the way? Also, would it be available in our local Chinatowns?

In the meantime, I googled and found these articles.

Sea Cuke
Sea Cucumber

Thanks for the info.

Hugs,

Hi, junable:

I appreciate your enthusiasm, however I took dried sea cucumber for several months, and even ate the raw (sushi) animal (it is not a plant). Although I had some good results, it was nowhere near a cure. Depending upon the availability of the product, it can help to some extent. In my case, it did not prevent flares, but I still have some to reevaluate in conjunction with starch elimination.

Glad for Your results, and Thank You for sharing them,
John