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#384476 03/25/10 10:32 PM
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Just got the book and have been reading portions of it. Vey good stuff for us trying this diet.
It's amazing this lay person has had such an influence on the medical profession. it says a lot about Dr. Enbringer and his openess to find the connection and have Carol independently do so also. I get the impression she is an obsessive person. People like that make these kinds of great discoveries. Her bowel obssesion and the taking of laxatives in the amount she does is a bit alarming. I've had many nutty patients in my hospital who were obssesed with laxatives. But who am I to argue about a lady who has this kind of success?

The only other part of the book I would say I object to is her defending of McDonalds. The food there is borderine crap no matter if it's acceptable on the starch free diet.

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The only other part of the book I would say I object to is her defending of McDonalds. The food there is borderine crap no matter if it's acceptable on the starch free diet.


hehehe, sometimes eating some borderline crap is good for the soul. Jon and I try not to be health nazi's 100% of the time....just most of the time.


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I recently bought the book also. She said that she drinks coca cola. Coke has corn syrup in it. How can it be starch free with corn syrup in it? I'm confused.

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Corn syrup manufacturing process breaks down starches into sugars, so there shouldn't be much starch (if any) left in it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_syrup

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Originally Posted By: Kiwi
Jon and I try not to be health nazi's 100% of the time....just most of the time.


Health nazi's AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, that's a good one roll

And I can totaly relate. Well, i used to be one, so i know. That was till i rediscover exactly what you said, that some food it's a wonderfull soul food, so hell with being so strict all the time

Unfortunatly, given the fact that I started very recently with NSD it's time te be total strict for a while... cry
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yes...i was really put-off by the mcdonald's comment too.

and...um, how to put this delicately, i was horrified at the fact that she hadn't had a b.m. in 3 weeks!! is that even possible??! i hope i don't sound offensive or insensitive about this because i can imagine that must be absolute hell...but after about 3 days i think i'd go to a doctor asap.

maybe it was the mcondald's that did it...? smile

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don't even mention the "non-dairy creamer" smile

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It's obvious if you're subscribing to the theory of no starch diet your not following the most healthy diet in the world. It's not a terrible diet per say. Most starch are in foods that are pure garbage. it's the loss of the root vegies and the grains that make it less then ideal. but if it alleviates a horrible disease that can literallly kill you then I say it's a pretty damm good diet. I just dont think you need to defend bad corporations like McDonalds or advocate soft drinks.

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An ideal diet for a healthy person could easily include root vegetables and rice, but from what I've read lately skipping grains with gluten is not a loss at all.

Just one example:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=celiac-disease-insights

Oops, they made that one subscriber-only now; guess it was too popular.

Well this guy has some relevant references:
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/search/label/gluten
especially note how lots of "healthy" people have IgA for gluten.

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Yes, on the NSD you don't eat grains or root vegetables but this diet is still 100% healthier than that of the average Joe walking down the street. Most people eat a lot of refined grains and loads of refined sugar etc which are of no value. Not many people eat ONLY whole grains and actually eat a healthy diet with NO junk at all. VERY few. Perhaps you are one of the few?

In a perfect world nobody would never eat junk but we don't live in that world. Even on the NSD, a treat can boost the spirits.....whether that be a drink of coke once in a blue moon or some chocolate or whatever non starch thing you go for.

Me and Jon don't consider McD's a treat...more a place we go if he's desperate like if we're out and about all day and haven't brought a packed lunch with us. The only thing he can eat there is the hamburger patties (which are 100% beef and nothing else) and the salad. Not too bad really in the grand scheme of things.

He very rarely drinks soft drinks....maybe once every few months he'll have one


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