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#501464 03/16/14 01:25 PM
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http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.ca/

Incredibly inexpensive and safe. Hard to argue with that. I know you don't like the word "cure," Timo but this may just be it. He claims that genetics play roughly a 3% role in auto immune conditions. Maybe we are not as doomed as our rheumies would have us believe.

Read the comments section of Part I, as well, for specifics.

POTATO STARCH;(or other resistant starch)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=POTATO+STARCH&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3APOTATO+STARCH

SPECIFIC PROBIOTICS;
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=aor+probiotics+3&hasWorkingJavascript=1&sprefix=AOR+PROBIOTICS%2Caps%2C541

VARIOUS HOME MADE FERMENTED VEGGIES;(in comments, he says only use salt so I assume no starter cultures)
http://www.culturesforhealth.com/how-to-naturally-culture-ferment-vegetables
http://primalkitchencompany.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=62

DIET(follow his anti inflammatory diet or 'The Paleo Approach, Reverse Auto Immune Disease and Heal Your Body"

EXERCISE

MANAGE STRESS

NOT BEING "FASTIDIOUSLY CLEAN"(avoid hand sanitizers, harsh cleaning supplies, washing hands etc.)

FMT(if possible)

Happy reading all!!!

Three cheers for Dr.Ayers. Hip hip...

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That is a HUGE Blog - WOW. Most useful - great post, full of terrif information - a great resource. I have already copied the link to my Dr in the UK and now about to send to a string of friends.

Would love it in book form, but would prob mean a ream of paper and a full cartridge of toner...!!

Good one, thanks for putting it up -

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I'm super interested in the idea of trying resistant starch, but I'm hesitant to given the success people have seen avoiding starch. Anybody played around with it?

This corroborates his ideas http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2014/01/curing-ankylosing-spondylitis/ and are both sources I trust. But they certainly overstep their bounds by saying "But the “no cure” part is probably mistaken. Yesterday I received an email..." K, 1 person, let's declare a cure found.

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I will be following Dr Ayers' recommendations as well as I can understand. On top of an anti-inflammatory diet, I will be taking potato starch, probiotic 3. I have VERY bad reactions to rice but seem to be ok when I eat small amounts sweet potatoes and yams. Everybody's gut flora is different depending on the state of their gut, what bacteria is present or missing and what foods they eat, stress etc.

In my case, avoiding starch in it's entirety, in my opinion, has led to even more food sensitivities and intolerances. Look at the people's diets that are following a very strict NSD. Most of us/them can eat only a handful of different foods to avoid flares. The more strict NSD I became, the less enbrel worked for me and I am now flare due to eggs, most nightshades, seeds/seed products. I don't even bother with grains.
Paul Jaminet and Dr Ayers are ACTUAL geniuses in the year 2014. I'm going to give their recommendations a strong go. I will happily guinea pig their theories and anybody that wants to PM me can feel free to check on my progress(or lack of)

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Re-watching that video, it might not exactly corroborate as he was eating white rice which is relatively low in RS (http://freetheanimal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Resistant-Starch-in-Foods.pdf). But it does align the PHD idea that it's a bad idea to starve gut microbes of starch.

Regardless, I'm intrigued enough by the ideas to give it a go. I haven't had any starch (beyond any minute amount in a non starchy vegetable) in a year. So if I do flare up, at least I'll be fairly confident in the culprit.

I've picked up some potato starch from the store, I've ordered the 3 probiotics recommended here http://freetheanimal.com/2013/12/resistant-primer-newbies.html and I'll continue eating a ton a sauerkraut (it's store bought, but fairly local and supposed to be unpasteurized and probiotic http://sonomabrinery.com/products.html)

If only we had easy access to FMT to combine with this frown.

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I'm right there with you coopatroopa. It's very hard to argue with Paul jaminet and/or Dr.Ayers' points.
A friend of mine(with AS) started with only 1tsp of potato starch/ day an is now up to about 5tsp/ day a few months later. He went from one bowel movement / 3 days(like me) to a "glorious" 1-3 bm's /day. He hasn't added the fermented veg or pro-3 yet.
I'm taking a PEG based laxative whilst waiting for my orders to arrive. Hoping it will help.
I too have the same brand of sauerkraut but have recently been making my own because in the comments section, Dr. Ayers suggested that one should only use salt , veg and water. I like the taste of the sonoma brand and still eat it but it has bacterial cultures in the list of ingreds. I don't know if that helps or hurts but I'm just going to follow Dr. Ayers' exact recs. and go home made from here on out. The variety of veg can't be found in stores, either. He also mentions something along the lines of that sometimes a juice fast MAY work because of the bacteria or foods "catching, or sticking" to the gut wall and enable the user to tolerate certain foods afterwards because of it. I believe her name is Andrea on this site(aka bettyrawker.com) but she documented her fast and can tolerate tons of stuff I can only dream of.

You're exactly right, add it and you'll know if that's what's causing the symptoms. I ate a half of a really small yam last night again and seemed to tolerate it pretty well. It didn't change my pain level of about a 3 that I've been in for the last few weeks.

If FMT's are not more easily accessible in the VERY near future, I will be forced to max out my credit card. A weekend in vegas, $1659. An ultra-hd television set, $4899. Another man's poo up you bum...priceless wink

Thanks for the freetheanimal primer for newbies link. I couldn't find that before.

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Your sauerkraut lists starter as an ingredient? Or did you read that it included somewhere else? This is what mine looks like http://i.imgur.com/PUStLt1l.jpg

I'd love to do homemade, but I don't have anywhere in my apartment where the temperature is consistent enough for me to feel good about fermenting in house. Whole Foods in my area have a couple of other good looking fermented veggie brands so I'll probably try and and switch it up regularly.

Do you know if your buddy noticed any decrease in AS symptoms or has it been limited to digestive/gut improvement?

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Sent them an email and they confirmed

"Hey Cooper!
Thanks for the kind words. We love hearing that you like the product.
We really and truly only use those three ingredients. It has stood the test of time for centuries, and we have gone back to what works so well. The bacteria is what makes the magic, and we just give it a bit of time. "

I don't doubt homemade is superior, but this may be a fair alternative.

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Awesome, Cooper! Nice P.I. work. Definitely an option since those are the only ingredients.
Dr.A mentions to only have those 3 ingreds. in this comment section.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=196334975274806517&postID=5850507581019441309

I'm just using 500ml bernardin jars. Bought them at my local supermarket 12 for 10$. I read to burp them(briefly open the jar) two times a day to avoid potential explosion. Leave one inch of room from the top of the jar so that liquid extracted from the veggies has somewhere to go. My fermented veggie techniques are very amatuer. I would try and get recs from somewhere else. We both agree that PHD is an excellent source of info.
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/food/fermented-foods/

I have sauerkraut still sitting under the counter since March 27th. No mold and gets more sour the longer I leave it. We can just scoop off the mold if it forms anyways. I need to learn to be less fearful of bacteria and dirt. He always mentions to not fear public bathrooms, don't wash hands religiously, no harsh cleaning agents(i've thrown away all bleach, fantastik, comet), don't use toothpastes with broad spectrum antibiotics etc. Goes against everything I stand for but he's the boss. I have also started to use soap and shampoo less often as the skin is said to have very beneficial bacteria. This podcast briefly states the same concepts from two people I HIGHLY respect;
http://www.bulletproofexec.com/101-mark-sisson-on-the-primal-blueprint-podcast/

My friend has not noticed improvements in AS symptoms but has only just started to implement the fermented veg routine. He also just ordered pro-3. Fingers crossed.

Ya, so funny that we've reverted back to the need for simple foods that our great grandmas would brew up for us. My Wife is from Thailand. They ferment crabs for papaya salad, anchovies and other fish for fish sauce, fermented fish belly curry, unripe mangoes and just about every kind of veggie know to man. Her family is far less scared of dirt than I am/was, as well. Her gut is made of iron! Nobody in her family has anything even remotely resembling any kind of cancer or auto immune disorder. Hmmmm.

Part III came out yesterday! I noticed just before bed time and I could hardly sleep. I've been saving that read for after dinner tonight. I fee like a kid on x-mas eve. I'm tempted to print his whole blog before someone has it taken down for some ridiculous legality or technicality.

Please keep me posted, Coopatroopa.
p.s. I ate half of a small sweet potato again yesterday. Two days in a row equals too much too fast. Pain in the lower back this morning.

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I started yesterday with two separate 1 tablespoon servings of potato starch and probiotics (pills + sauerkraut). Nothing of interest to note so far.

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