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Its for RA but Paddison posted some AS testimonials. Its basically a raw vegan diet - lots of celery and cucumber juicing. Difference is people soak nuts, eat sweet potato and squash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBYflWTeArghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1tIjeID6mc
Diagnosed with AS 2018, MRI Sacroiliac joint: HLB27 +: uveitis NSAIDS, Peripheral (hands, jaw, knees) LSD - 2018, NSD - 2019, AIP June 2018
Some nuts (not me, what I eat) No dairy Some egg Some low carb fruit
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Weird you posted this. I was just listening to his AS podcasts lately on my daily dog walks.
He's a likeable guy. I'm pretty sure his program isn't centered on raw vegan, but rather the whole foods plant based paradigm. The doctors he draws his methods from are the typical cast of characters found in plant based documentaries. People like Barnard, McDougall, Esselstyn, Klaper, Popper, T Colin Campbell, etc.
From his podcasts, at their roots AS & RA are conditions which stem from severe digestive disorders. The juices are meant to flush the gut of toxins and help restore order to the gut. I gather his program starts in phases as somewhat of an elimination diet with the goal to be fully able to enjoy everything on the whole foods plant based spectrum, save for things like gluten grains. No oils is also a key item to discard.
Anyway, it's a method I hitched my wagon to a couple of years ago and can report a high level of success, albeit not as overnight miraculous and hiccup free as those Netflix documentaries might have you believe. I also made some mistakes to be fair.
Paddison won't be popular here as he is outspoken about the science of Ebringer's stance on starches as wrong so you probably won't get a lot of back and forth here.
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Hi Guys
I have the diet plan e book and contemplating trying it soon.... (Contact me Via PM with your email address and I will send a copy to you....)
I Want to do a CRP Blood test Before and After the diet program which is like 21 days or something can't remember read it a while back.....
Need to Visit A GP who will order the blood test then I can make copies of the order to do repeat tests when I need them(Thats what I was told by the Blood Lab/Clinic)
My CRP does reflect the amount of pain I am In, Since It was around 42mg/l for a long time now.....
What I can remember from reading the book is that enzymes are important, Alkalizing foods are important, No pro inflammatory foods allowed like sugar,wheat,dairy(common)
I think the diet is worth a try and could work by re-establishing good bacteria which offset the bad pathogens and reduce inflammation.....but this can take a while to happen(especially if you have been in pain for a long time - I'm assuming)
I am going to read the book again tomorrow and start planning for the diet....
I will post my results here if I do It......
Regards
Lee
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HLA B27+ Have AS since the age of 13. Diagnosed in 2005 at the age of 22
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Ok, I'll bite: L33 i will DM you for a copy!
I've heard about the Paddison diet but only on other boards where people talk about trying it but then never hear about their results.
I found KickAS first and found the explanation for NSD really compelling. I had already discovered on my own that dairy and grains were problematic but was absolutely stumped by the why, and knew I was still missing a key piece of the puzzle. As soon as I read about the starch/gut bacteria theory it just made so much sense. I then tried NSD I had responded so well and so quickly that I never really looked further.
I have found it hard to find clear info about Paddison diet online. I would love to read the book. I'm a bit skeptical of the acid/alkaline theory....It seems to underpin a lot of alt-nutrition advice these days, but I have never been able to find any research that supports it, so I would love to see Paddison's references.
Suspected USpA. HLA B27, xray, u/sound, blood tests all -ve. Ancient history of plantar fasciitis, SI joint pain, knee arthritis. Recent history of tendinitis, neck pain, debilitating finger pain and stiffness (especially mornings). No diagnosis, no meds.
2010 - stopped eating dairy 2012 - stopped eating wheat 2014 - stopped eating all grains Jan 2017 - discovered NSD - 98% improvement in symptoms, continually amazed by my results, wish I'd found kickAS sooner
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Hi All
I plan on doing the diet soon I am busy buying all the necessary things that the book recommends....
I have done a CRP + ESR + FBC blood test yesterday after having it ordered by my GP....waiting for the results...
The book recommends doing one before & After the diet to see any improvement....
I have also purchased a good quality Steamer/Rice cooker for all the food that I will be cooking....
I have also have a blender which I am using as Juice maker....
I have bought a lot of bottled water for the duration of the diet as well.
I will post my current blood results as soon I get them...
Will keep you posted
Regards
Lee
HLA B27+ Have AS since the age of 13. Diagnosed in 2005 at the age of 22
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Good luck with the diet! Please keep us updated on your progress. Look forward to reading the book so I can follow along.
Suspected USpA. HLA B27, xray, u/sound, blood tests all -ve. Ancient history of plantar fasciitis, SI joint pain, knee arthritis. Recent history of tendinitis, neck pain, debilitating finger pain and stiffness (especially mornings). No diagnosis, no meds.
2010 - stopped eating dairy 2012 - stopped eating wheat 2014 - stopped eating all grains Jan 2017 - discovered NSD - 98% improvement in symptoms, continually amazed by my results, wish I'd found kickAS sooner
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Hi Guys
I must apologise to iamhealth123 I don't mean to hi Jack your thread....
Just an update I have my blood results Taken recently in order to see if the Paddison program can bring down inflamation .... this is the results before the Paddison program diet.
My CRP is 33mg/l, ESR is 41mm/hr, FBC (Full blood count) is normal....
I will post my CRP & ESR again after the diet.....
Cheers...
HLA B27+ Have AS since the age of 13. Diagnosed in 2005 at the age of 22
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Good luck! Please keep us posted. I sent you my email via PM, would love to read the Paddison book.
Suspected USpA. HLA B27, xray, u/sound, blood tests all -ve. Ancient history of plantar fasciitis, SI joint pain, knee arthritis. Recent history of tendinitis, neck pain, debilitating finger pain and stiffness (especially mornings). No diagnosis, no meds.
2010 - stopped eating dairy 2012 - stopped eating wheat 2014 - stopped eating all grains Jan 2017 - discovered NSD - 98% improvement in symptoms, continually amazed by my results, wish I'd found kickAS sooner
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Hi Lee,
How have you got on with the Paddison approach? I've listened to a lot of the podcasts and seen a couple of AS success stories but would love to know if it has an impact.
HLA B27+ Diagnosed in 2019 at the age of 33 Peripheral joints most impacted - inflamed left foot and fluid in right knee
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One important note about Paddison Program. Clint Paddison went raw/vegan for 8 months before he could introduce any cooked foods such as quinoa, or rice into his diet without pain/inflammation. The same thing happened to me in regard to my RA. I can only tolerate raw food (raw fruit and raw veggies) I cannot eat bananas, oranges, lemons and carrots . It is very difficult, and avocado is my source of fat and calories. I eat a ton of greens, berries,melons papaya . Green juices and salad without oil dressing should help your inflammation . Today I watched a story/podcast of a woman that had her AS go into remission using PP. Her story is here on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gabuKjG0w8oThe woman being interviewed is called Cherie. She wrote a book that sells on Amazon
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Diet change has improved my RA. I feel best eating raw veggies and some fruits and avoiding grains, sugars, nightshades, beans and dairy. Sed rate dropped from 65 to 19, but it took over a year. www.fatsickandnearlydead.com excess fat/oils = pain for me recipes for raw food on Youtube "raw food romance" and "healing josephine" Josephine is in remission from RA after two years by change diet/exercise
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Hello.. Would love to know your result.
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I tried Paddison Program in the past but recently it worked much better for my RA. The big difference is now I exercise, and take Plaquenil .I do not eat oils and processed foods and I waituntil noon to eat.......For some reason wheat, oil, dairy and excess meat really make my joints swell. If I can swim, or do stationery bike30 minutes a day, take Plaquenil and eating mostly plant based (not processed junk.... it is night and day) I feel ok, not like death. The whole foods agree with me, I feel like it’s baby food some days. For example, Green smoothie kale, berries banana for breakfast(noon) , rice and lentils cooked carrots for lunch and for dinner a salad with homemade soup. Oats with cinnamon and raisins work for me. I know this is an AS website...but I thought some folks with RA might stop by like I did in the past.
Diet change has improved my RA. I feel best eating raw veggies and some fruits and avoiding grains, sugars, nightshades, beans and dairy. Sed rate dropped from 65 to 19, but it took over a year. www.fatsickandnearlydead.com excess fat/oils = pain for me recipes for raw food on Youtube "raw food romance" and "healing josephine" Josephine is in remission from RA after two years by change diet/exercise
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