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A dietician might be really helpful for you. You might want to consider (and get dietician advice on) a gluten free diet rather tnan starch free - as it is a less restrictive diet and a gluten free diet has helped a number of folks here. Yes by all means talk to the OB-GYN doctor and maybe ask if you can get a referral to a professional dietician.

Good luck to you!

Hi, Sara:

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I am rethinking even cutting out bread at this point now!

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Pity that! Whatever did our mothers eat before there were flour mills and wallpaper paste?! There are NO NUTRIENTS (except that which is added back--and then they call it 'fortified') in de-germed, micronized, bleached grains. We have only been testing this product on humanity since late 1800s and it has been a terrible experiment that we are paying for in increased diabetes and WIDEspread corpulence.

FLOUR is empty calories, but can become a great biomass for bacterial growth.

It would be a terrible shame if eating bread displaced actual vital nutrients from your diet, independent of the fact it will increase AS activity. Certainly, however, the amount of damage done during the brief gestation time, is not so great as that done over so many years of starch-ignorance or acceleration through NSAID abuse.

While it is a good thing to be cautious, there is SOME point, short of abject paranoia, that can also be very dangerous.

Good luck in your efforts,
John

hi sara...
i wouldnt panic about lowering your bread intake right now...the carb issue is when you are actually pregnant. while i was pregnant i ate carbs...baby comes first...then i resumed watching what i eat once i was about 8 weeks post partum..proper baby development is most important. when i had my stomach issues my gastro doc is the one who had me reduce alot of my starches only because they were so hard on my digestive tract. gluten free is also a good suggestion...

try not to overworry.....stressing over this too much wont help you out. when you come out pregnant you may be lucky enough to go into remission. there is a percentage that do. i would take it one day at a time though. every person's body is different so try not to worry too much over it and take one day at a time..

Hi Kat, I think the name you are looking for is Dr. Monika Ostensen

https://www.kickas.org/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=19868&page=&vc=1

https://www.kickas.org/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=190358&page=&vc=1

Sara - there was one former contributor (buckwheat/Janet) to these forums who followed a low starch diet during her pregnancy after discussing it with her doctor and dietician. As John implies, if it wasn't possible without bread and pizza then the human race would not exist. Though I suppose creationists would disagree.

all this talk of pregnancy has got me thinking, my latest x-ray has shown some changes on my SI's so the road to fusing has began, have any of you mums had natural births with part of total fusion of the SI's?

Ta.

Thanks again for the support. I am planning on keeping the bread and pizza out. But my worry was that I had decided to cut back on all other starches to only once a day or every other day, which I dont believe is a good idea now. I will surely do it if I am not pregnant, but the hardest thing is when you are trying to get pregnant there are two weeks out of every month you may be but dont know yet and technically you are supposed to assume you are... which sucks lol. But it will all be worth it in the end! You guys are great thanks for all the support!

Sara

There are a few days of pregnancy, where the fertilized ovum commutes to its final implantation site. Until it is implanted, I don't think the baby is impacted by the mother's diet. I'm not sure, but I think there may be 3 - 5 days before the fertilized egg implants and gets nourished by the growing placenta. Does anybody recall the transit time? I think the act of implantation and the hormones then secreted give a woman a clue that something has changed anyway. I think smoking and alcohol would be worse for the baby, than being deprived of starches for the first 2 weeks or so.

Dear Sigrid, I don’t think it’s a question of choosing between EITHER alcohol/tobacco exposure OR starch restriction here. I would guess that Sara is carefully avoiding these other potential dangers. However, to expect impact of maternal nutrition on the process of ovulation/conception or on the health of preimplantation and periimplantation embryos is not without some precedent:

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2003/6261/6261.html#mate
Maternal Nutritional Status

from

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2003/6261/6261.html
Chapin RE, Robbins WA, Schieve LA, Sweeney AM, Tabacova SA, Tomashek KM.
Off to a good start: the influence of pre- and periconceptional exposures, parental fertility, and nutrition on children's health.
Environ Health Perspect. 2004 Jan;112(1):69-78. Review.
PMID: 14698934
medline link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query...t_uids=14698934

Environmental Health Perspectives (EHP), is the peer-reviewed journal of the United States' National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Journal website:
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/admin/about.html


That being said, there are valid concerns on exposures to chemicals such as tobacco or alcohol as you state and also to medical drugs -including drugs such as NSAIDs. NSAIDs can have some influence on fertility rates

This is exactly why Sara is doing well to make all her plans for planning a pregnancy together with her team of health care professionals, including her nutritional plans. I’m sure she’ll come to a good and calm place to plan for and then enjoy her pregnancy.

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http://www.biolreprod.org/cgi/content/full/71/4/1046
Fleming TP, Kwong WY, Porter R, Ursell E, Fesenko I, Wilkins A, Miller DJ,
Watkins AJ, Eckert JJ.
The embryo and its future.
Biol Reprod. 2004 Oct;71(4):1046-54. Epub 2004 Jun 23. Review.
PMID: 15215194
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query...4&dopt=Abstract

“The preimplantation mammalian embryo from different species appears sensitive to the environment in which it develops… in vivo, for example, in response to … maternal diet...”

Note glucose, energy substrates on the embryo environment list, and diet on the in vivo environment list:


FIG. 1. Schematic representing the potential interactions between the environment of the embryo, either in vitro or in vivo, the embryo's short-term responses, and their long-term consequences. Different stages and lineages of embryo development are shown in different colors representing undifferentiated cells (pink), trophectoderm (yellow), ICM (pale blue), and primitive endoderm (deep blue)