Kickas.org Forums Treatments, Drugs and Alternatives NSD and diet-related; Even if Dr. Ebringer is wrong...

...NSD/LSD is a good diet. Cut some more of the sugar/carbs, and up the fat, and you're on your way to better health, whether you have AS or not.

After countless hours of research about diet, autoimmune disorders, arthritis, inflammation, and disease, in general, I have no doubt that the good Dr. is onto something, if not totally correct.

Here are some links to blogs that support Dr. Ebringer's theory, or that I've found useful, regarding diet. Some of them have come to the same conclusion, totally independent of his.

cooling inflammation

panu

hyperlipid

marks daily apple

Recent research does support low-starch/low-sugar/high-"good"-fats as the optimal diet for most people -- a couple of doctors in my family have stopped worrying so much about my "weird" diet thanks to that research. For ordinary people low-starch is probably optimal, since it widens your variety of vegetables a lot.

I really agree with you there.
The biggest thing I noticed about cutting out starch, is that without all that sugary, gloopy filler food, not only do you eat much more fresh food - including fruit and vegetables - but, that also everything tastes better when it's not "watered down" (don't know the solid equivalent of this!!!) with stodge.

the neatest thing is that when we started cutting out the crap foods from our diet... the effects are astounding on my kids. When I am desperate for food and make a batch of noodles for them, they take only a couple bites and feed it to the dog! LOL!

We've found we eat much less on real foods too so now we can afford the organic choices in the store.

Too true!

My kids always want to try what interesting new things I am eating!

I would never have thought I'd see the day when my 2yr old, 4yr old and 6yr old would tuck into nuts, raisins and fruit for a snack and actually beg me for more!

It just goes to show how what we do DOES affect our children.

I know people tend to rationalize most things they do. I would caution people to see starches as evil. THey are a treatment modality and effective for many. But most of the world can eat starches without difficulties. That being said there are a lot of very bad starches put in our food at the supermarket. It's no wonder our country is so fat. but if people are teaching there kids that noodles are bad I think it sends the wrong message. I personally try to stay away from making my diet my kids diet from the NSD point of view.

cheers
ari

Hey there

I may not have explained myself very well there, Ari

I do not think it would be beneficial to my little one's growth and development to be a part of my NSD either... I think there is a huge difference between cutting out junk food like Trudi was saying and making starch a healthy part of a balanced diet.

I was angling more at the point that instead of my children having snacks like donuts, or crisps or cookies - it's nice to see them eating some alternatives like nuts and raisins. But that is certainly not to say that I mind them having the other stuff too - just not every day.

My other point was intended to mean that I have tried to make my restrictive diet as interesting as possible and I am thrilled that it is encouraging my little one's to eat more fruit, veg and other foods prepared in different ways. Their range of foods has increased a lot (as have mine for that matter!)

I am not usually a big fruit eater, so I like that, seeing me eating it is grabbing their attention and making them want to give it a go!

Starchs are not evil! All things in moderation is a good rule for anyone without dietry issues! lol

I didnt mean you actually Tink. It sounds like you feed your kids like we do. MOstly an organic diet, they love fruits, not so much vegies. Meat, good carbs and of course some junk!!! they are kids after all.

Heehee!
Kids sure like a bit a junk

Since I didn't mention it in my first post, I feel I need to now, for those that haven't checked the links.

When I say increase fat, I mean saturated fat. Nuts, Avocados, and animal fat. Yes, butter and bacon! The worst part about bacon is the sugar that most of it's cured with. Butter is good for us. My doctor says the biggest problem with butter is the non-organic variety that concentrates certain things that we don't want any of, like hormones, antibiotics, etc. So, when you can, go organic, especially with dairy.

Meat that has been fed grain has fewer omega3 fatty acids, which is why many of us supplement with fish oil. If you can get your hands on grass-fed meat however, you shouldn't have to.

As for olive oil, use extra-virgin, and my doctor told me not to cook with it, as it can turn into a trans-fat. I get plenty of it with my salads. I cook with coconut oil, or butter....or both.

All of these things help regulate inflammation, which is exactly what those of us with AS need. I've been on this diet six months, and can feel an incredible difference in pain levels. I used to pop Ibuprofen on a regular basis, but have completely stopped since I started NSD. I've also lost 40 pounds.