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#131313 10/24/03 09:09 AM
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hi everyone,
Thank you for earlier comments/suggestions given by everyone re pregnancy.

Interestingly enough, my AS pain completely dissolved a few weeks ago. Like my first pregnancy, during about week 7 of the pregnancy the AS went into remission. It's in almost complete remission (which it NEVER is, even when on NSD). Starting 3 weeks ago (week 8 or the pregnancy, I'm now 11 weeks along), I started eating lots of starch with NO ill effects. It was my nausea that drove me to the starch. The human body is amazing. If only I could somehow replicate this "hormonal effect" or whatever it is when I'm NOT pregnant. Why does this happen, what is it about these hormones that stops the pain....

In the meantime, I have to confess I'm totally enjoying eating everything I haven't had for a very long time. I plan to go back to NSD about a month post-partum before my hormones switch back to their "normal" pain-inflicting states. I trust that I'm not further damaging my body by doing this; it appears I may not be just because my body is telling me it's completely ok to eat starch right now.

One interesting thing I note is that I have a better sense of well-being when I consume starch than when I don't. I noticed this as soon as I went back to consuming starch. Both my husband and myself notice that my moods seem more stable when I'm not NSD (and given that women normally get moody when pregnant...this is very significant).
Interested to know if anyone else found this to be true and if any adjustment to supplements was able to bring back that sense of well-being while on NSD.

Any thoughts on any of this are welcome,
Peggy






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Hi Peg,
Glad to see you are doing so much better. Oh REMISSION! If this was guaranteed I think more of us would get preggy! Sorry guys!
I don't know about the NSD and feeling more content. I do think that I would have a much better view of life if I could sit down with a tall glass of MILK and some Double Stuff Oreos!!! Oh how I miss them!
Anyway, great to see you and glad to hear you are enjoying yourself!
Janet



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Hi Peggy,

Good to hear you are doing so well! Good for you!

Not so sure about feelings of well-being on/off NSD - personally I've found that being back properly on the NSD has enhanced my general feeling of well-being!!!

(Hmm, maybe this last year hasn't been the *best* example personally-speaking to go making comparisons , but the way I've felt over the last couple of weeks, having been back STRICTLY on the NSD for about 5/52, has been amazing and it most definately ties in with how I'd felt previously when strictly NSD.

So.....NSD physical trippy feelings combined with psychological trippy feelings, hey, I think this year just *might* end up way better than it started )

OMG, there goes that hysterical laughing again!!!!

(OK, I'm going to go now.....!!!)

All the very best to you Peggy,

Keep us posted,

Jan

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wow ! I wonder which hormones are involved in pregnancy?

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The glucocorticoids are immunosuppressive adrenal hormones; are more produced during pregnancy?

This we prescribe though no physician . . .
Our doctors say this is no month to bleed. (Rich. II)


'Then you should say what you mean,' the March Hare went on. 'I do,' Alice hastily replied; 'at least - at least I mean what I say - that's the same thing , you know.' 'Not the same thing a bit!' said the Hatter.
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Zark,
On rheuma21st.com there is an interesting article about hormones and inflammation:
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Hormones like progresteron are powerfull anti inflammatories. Just like cortisol the natural hormone that is the base of the prednisone like medicines it's a pity there are so many side effects to the use of these steroids.
Gerard

"That we become twice as old now as a century ago is the work of plumbers, not doctors" -Midas Dekkers-

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Hmm interesting... ties in with the concept of increased pain sensitivity in women in the premenstrual time.
Also I always had the feeling that interruptions to or irregularity in the menstrual cycle was not always a negative sign... ie the body is using that progesterone for some anti inflammatory task.
Cheers!
Sue


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Just came across this during my lunch time reading (Lydyard, Whelan & Fanger):

The initial response to a microbial infection is usually associated with predominantly Th1 or Th2 cytokines. The Th1 response leads to the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines . . . followed by the release of the ant-inflammatory cytokines...from Th2 cells. The Th2 response is associated with anti-inflammatory cytokines and antibody formation. That polarised Th1 or Th2 responses may be involved in autoimmune pathogenesis is suggested by the observation that during pregnancy, a period when Th2 cytokines predominate, the Th1 autoimmune disease RA is decreased, whereas the Th2 autoimmune disease SLE is exacerbated.

So, for RA can we read AS as well?



This we prescribe though no physician . . .
Our doctors say this is no month to bleed. (Rich. II)


'Then you should say what you mean,' the March Hare went on. 'I do,' Alice hastily replied; 'at least - at least I mean what I say - that's the same thing , you know.' 'Not the same thing a bit!' said the Hatter.

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