Kickas.org Forums Treatments, Drugs and Alternatives NSD and diet-related; Two AS Sub-groups?

So what is a TPI in Oz? Failing to see the UTI connection at the moment???????

If my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy

Well I deserve nothing more than I get

'Cos nothing I have is truly mine

- Dido

Hi again Wally...

Well, I tried to edit my post to make the thread/forum/site thing a bit easier for you - but it was too late, unable to edit...*tsk* *tsk*!!! However, please feel free to PM me if you would like me to decipher the words "post", "forum", "thread" and "site" - I would be happy to do so, even in words of one syllable should it be necessary!!!!!!

I am glad that you said "attempts at humour" as this made much RICHER use of the word "attempts" than I had previously been accustomed to.....???

Wally, there's just something there about you being Mr Pedantic (possible even Mr Completely Pedantic) which is belied by you (a) thinking I'm a bunny (yeah - like loads of evidence about that ) and then (b) telling me that dribble like "which people from your tribe wouldn't understand." (referring to the *science* part of the L'Oreal argument, which you notably drooled/sucked up over...) which as well as insulting my intelligence, just makes me think that you are a troll, a pseudo-troll, or at very best, displaying troll-tendencies?? - Wally. Or at least a wally, Wally.

If you're just having a laugh then bring it on....I'm WELL up for it honey...

If not, well - hey! ....are you having fun yet???

Don't go choking on the shampoo Wally - now that would be really numb....


Take care,

Jan



If my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy

Well I deserve nothing more than I get

'Cos nothing I have is truly mine

- Dido

Good one wally, the old ways are the best. Call it the ague and bring on the leeches & hey presto - the Bath Disability Index! - the pinnacle of knowledge!

This we prescribe though no physician . . .
Our doctors say this is no month to bleed. (Rich. II)

I feel like a voyeur here. I've been reading this whole exchange...no comment.

I agree with one of Mig's observations- food is just about one of the only real pleasures I get now.

Now substance for a sec... The reason I see that we who use medications do them on a trial and error basis
is simply that the meds work or not differently in different people...I think there are probably at least as many
subgroups as there are variations in diagnoses. I also believe that the diet program may work also differently
in individual cases.

Personally, confronted with a weight problem, I did the stillman diet for ten months: meat, fish, boiled eggs,
cottage cheese, salt and pepper, and ketchup...10 glasses of water a day...NOTHING ELSE> that's a no
starch diet if there ever was one. Well my back and hips were worse the whole time; my experience with
stillman leads me to conclude the LSD/NSD would probably not improve my life; and, with my now history of
ulcer from NSAIDS the greens and salads stuff give me the willies...a vegetarian tiger ?
aloha Ben

Dear Jan

Nope. Couldn't understand a word of this post either, which may have been just as well.

Along with John's 'NSAIDS makes you stupid' can be added 'NSD destroys your sense of humour' (we're all learning so much aren't we). I take the occasional bowl of cereal to nullify the effect and lighten me up a little. In a severe case like yours, well, that may not be quite enough. In fact I'd recommend nothing but starch for a month.

I'll have to be careful what I say to people from your tribe. By the time I've offended everyone on this forum I may have to seek asylum over there.

Hugs and kisses

Wally

Hugs and kisses on the NSD forum!!!

Come on Jan!


This we prescribe though no physician . . .
Our doctors say this is no month to bleed. (Rich. II)

That is NOT a properly balanced NSD, AlohaBen. It lacks fruits,vegetables, fiber, and good oils. It also did not eliminate casein and lactose on a trial basis. And the ketchup may have contained Modified Food Starch and corn byproducts, as I am absolutely sure some of the meat and fish products did UNLESS your were really scrutinizing the labels.

I was trying to find something non sugary to snack on this weekend at a gas station and had to eliminate all the packages of nuts( warning,"roasted in peanut oils in a facility that processes soy", while I can eat soy, these words means I will get sicker than a dog on the nuts because the peanut oil is so contaminated with God knows what) and almost all the meat jerky products contained gluten, pork, and assorted weirdo grain byproducts. This is typical.

The other point is that non-dieters cannot understand is that when they eliminate the things that they cannot digest, they regain the ability to eat things that previously caused problems, such as greens and salads.

Sorry about the weight problem, but that is also proof that one) you are stressing your joints further, and two) something is amiss in how your body transfers food products into flesh and bone.

Once again, another example of non-compliance being passed off as a failure.

Did you notice he forgot to mention Rohypnol??!!!



If my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy

Well I deserve nothing more than I get

'Cos nothing I have is truly mine

- Dido

Hi Windrider,

I don't know whether you checked Ben's profile, but I noticed he is a chef by occupation. In general, I don't think of chef's as those most prone to popping into the nearby gas station for jerky or eating pre-packaged meat and fish products as staples whilst attempting to lose weight. Although I agree his diet didn't sound balanced, the lack of fruit and veggie content does not equate to hidden starches (to me at least). Perhaps he will jump back in and provide us more details, otherwise your conclusions seem a bit of a leap.

A chef with a weight issue doesn't lead me to conclude.. 'something is amiss in how his body transfers food into flesh' ...when a simpler answer might suffice?

mig