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#210469 10/25/05 06:16 PM
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What causes your flares?? Is it that you eat the wrong thing, or does a flare just pop up. I'd love to hear from both the NSDers and the non-NSDers.
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Hi, Lisa:

Before the period in which I took NSAIDs, I found that there were several foods that could initiate a flare. The most severe flare I ever had was induced after eating fried rice. I later noticed that I could not eat many fried foods without flaring: Papad (Indian fried lentil bread), tempura, onion rings, pakora, and eventually even French fries caused me to flare. Taking NSAIDs dulls our awareness of this.

Much later, I got a massive flare from just eating mayonnaise sandwiches--a birthday present to myself when I was in India. I thought it was the mayonnaise, but have since discovered the starch connection.

When I fasted, my symptoms would go away and I fasted up to 20 days for a very lasting remission.

Understand what I might think of the doctors who were and are still booming "there is NO ARTHRITIS diet!" They could not bring themselves to tell me it was starch all along!

The flare can begin within 1-20 hours after eating a provocative food, but it might last 10 days, even under optimum (no starch or even fasting) conditions. It is obvious how confusing AS is just because of the time constants involved.

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John

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What I do not get, is how come even if you still consume starch, flares can subside? The spondylarthapies are certainly very mysterious and confusing conditions.


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Hi Lisa,

My AS seems to be impacted by a few factors...

Easily the biggest factor is diet... if I eat starch I will experience arthritic pain (flare) as a result.

#2 is stress... this can set me off as well, usually full body when it does happen.

#3 Overdo exersise, joints can get a bit soar

Tim


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Hey, zdog:

I certainly don't have all the answers, but I do know that flares subside due to many factors, especially a combination of 'anergy' and the elimination of the initiating IgA-Kp that has about an 80 hour half-life. Anergy is the exhaustion of immune components; it takes some time for them to be replaced by our bodies.

Another thing is that an initiating food could be more intestine-damaging than another food that might seem to be dangerous. Fried foods, in particular, are full of free-radicals that can affect the lumen, or lining of the mucosa. Also, foods that have this level of stickiness not only slow down digestion (increasing bacterial compliment geometrically), but also conduct a maximum amount of bacteria into existing lesions.

Once the major portions of the lesions are healed back up, some starches will not then incite a flare; so not all starches are equal at all times. It is probably even more complicated than this, but that's a start...

Health!
John


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