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Hi Brent,

Been eating it just about 1/2 year now... knew of benefits for several years, but just too lazy to make it.

Growing up (German ancestors as well), my one grandmother made it... but was very strong and I did not like it. I believe though she used vinegar.

Tim

The store stuff will probably be pasteurised, so no probiotics.

That's interesting Megan (and Tim!)
I have the same experience, kefir works better than sauerkraut for me. I used to eat sauerkraut regularly for a year or two, but strangely enough during the last year, every time I try sauerkraut it wakes the AS demon in me. As I have not been well the last year, my guess is that the lactobacteria in sauerkraut needs I rather healed gut to work well for your.
Just like sweet unfermented milk, I believe raw cabbage should never be eaten. Both are very tough to digest, at least I cannot take either.

Cheers
Andreas

Check your health food store, they should have some.

FYI - There is not cooking involved. But some patience is needed.

I'm glad you started this thread Tim. I just bought some sauerkraut from my local health food store yesterday. Only ingredients are cabbage, salt and water and it does not say it is pasteurized (also does not say it is unpasteurized), the brine is cloudy and there are instructions to shake the bottle until cloudy before eating.

I have ulcerative colitis (in remission at the moment and would like it to stay that way!!) and have found that adding raw cabbage (coleslaw) to my diet seems to help my digestion (I cannot eat cooked cabbage). I also use shredded cabbage in salads, as a base for spaghetti sauce or meat in sauce instead of noodles or rice.

A German homeopath friend told me to drink sauerkraut juice for colitis and I do sometimes but after my success with cabbage and the need to add more probiotic (cutting out milk products (yogurt) for a while) I decided to try the sauerkraut.

I was wondering how much to eat daily? I started with about two tablespoons at lunch yesteray and had the same today. How much do you eat?

All the best,
Ruby7

Hi Ruby,

I personally eat 1-2 fork fulls (not heaping, but decent size). If I eat too much, I will know 5-6 hours later by visiting the bathroom a couple of times.

I tried a store brand here as well, did not have the success I did with the homemade. I have also seen recipes for cabbage juice on the internet... I tried, but the taste is very strong. I really like the taste of this sauerkraut recipe that I have.

Tim

Tim... please share your recipe!?!?!

Thanks Tim, I should make the sauerkraut but I have trouble with nausea and am very sensitive to smells. So the less I have to deal with the sauerkraut the better. At least I don't find it too bad to eat. There was another brand at my health food store that had probiotics added and said unpasteurized on the label, but it looked so cloudy and reminded me of years ago when I used to take powdered acidophilus in water (yuck!!) Maybe I'll try it next time though.

Cabbage is a two-edged sword and fermented sauerkraut is the safest form.
Cabbage as "sugarloaf" is sweet to the taste because it contains (surprise surprise) sugars! The main form is LACTOSE which is Kp edible and, therefore, a potential hazard.
So if you react to cabbage, then it follows that you would probably also react to dairy.
It is this very lactose that the lactobacteria eat and convert in the same way as in fermented yoghurt. There are ususally two species, one predominates initial stages and then (as lactic acid is produced) the acidity rises and another lacto species takes over.
There is also production of some esters which have a very strong penetrating smell and some people will not enjoy, however, if that smell is not there you probably only have vinegar "fermented" kraut.

If lactose is of little concern, then cabbage is a GREAT food as it contains l-glutamine and heals the gut.
I agree that there are different tolerances and different healing effects with severity of gut damage and maybe suerkraut helped me due to lack of serious damage, but if it helps Tim's IBS
that is serious

Hey Ted!

Why do you say cabbage contains lactose? Would you have a reference? My understanding is that sugars in cabbage are something else than lactose.
Thanks in advance!

Kaisa