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No, am not good with a lot of grains. Don't go for huge quantities of meat either. Not beef anyways (don't even much care for beef.) Like lamb, but can't take too much of it - only now and again. LOVE bacon, but finding good bacon is diff. Most of it is factory farmed, and tastless. Then one can get the dried bacon, but that is cured to the enth degree, sulfas, nitrates etc etc. Food chain has gone to pot. Most of the time I can't be that bothered, but gotta eat! (That was a nice meal we had out at that restaurant.)

I don't go along a 100% with diets, when it works for some, great. But for me, ummmmm. Know that I gotta be a bit careful, but do tucker out some - cheese: cause it's easy to hack a chunk off. Love tomatoes, but 'almost' daren't. This evening had chicken soup, home made, just chicken (had roasted it, was so tasteless in spite of 'doctoring' with herbs and etc etc. So just threw the whole thing in the pot. Bingo. Soup.) delicious. But...reactions set in within a couple of hours.

One gets soooo darn fed up with gut.


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Yes I know what you mean I would rather snack on cheese and crackers soup and easy things. I know I shouldnt but I do eat fruit and porridge which is good for the Diabetes.
Its nice having a meal out every now and then I enjoyed that meal we had it was just right not too much to upset tummy. My stomach is good at the moment probably because my AS is being so good.

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Quote: "especially beans, and fruits."

Can't touch beans and legumes, they are a disaster... As for whole grains...rather not. Whole grain bread, toasted, is yummy, but, dare not. Sigh. It's all soooo tedious. Innit?


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_diet

http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/NegativeBR/d%27adamo.html

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Thanks for this, Jroc. I always like to see what quackwatch and others have to say.


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sorry to hear all your gut issues, i did have a rough time of it with tummy for a few years in the early to mid 90s, and occasionally it flares, but mostly i have found a diet good for tummy and bowels. but have had some real difficulties so i really do understand and sorry you've had so much trouble. i so love good simple foods, and when i can't eat them, it really is the pits. especially with you being in france now, where it just sounds like people eat the way i like to eat. is the food better in france then it was in england? or is it a fallacy, in your experience?



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Thanks Darryn for the post. I'll try to combine this diet with NSD. I find the article enlighten me for some facts that my NSD not so success like others. That because my blood type is A. I don't know if there any person here who has A-blood type and success with just NSD (eat meat)

I am a vegetarian before i joined this Kick AS family forum and one book i read is the diet by blood type by J'Adamo. It help me to decide to become vegetarian but it not helped me a lot with my AS because i eat potato and grain back then. But it helped a bit. Until i change it to NSD. It improve my condition better but my ESR never been decreased and there still pain and stiff in lot places.

Read your post article i realize that several points i need to change:
1. I will change the meat (usually pork, beef, and lamb) to just chicken, and neutral water (lake) fish with deep see fish that allowed by the list
2. I eat melon, mangoes, orange a lot before in my NSD and i'll remove it with blueberry, watermelon, etc
3. I eat cabbage everyday, but now i'll try to avoid it and replace it with another vegetables (cucumber, lettuce, okra, broccoli). But i don't know if there any vegetables other than cabbage which we can use to make fermented vegetables? Please answer. Because sauerkraut need cabbage, and kimchi use white chinese cabbage and radish usually

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Food in France? Was a deal better when I lived here way back when - 1979/81 Paris. Have noticed a definite deterioration. Far more commercialised products and, very difficult to find biological foods, and as for chicken or prok products? Forget it. 99.9% raised in production factory farms. tasteless yuck! (Hence my chicken thrown into the pot for soup...almost Euro 8 for a scrawny looking rather sad package stern) For chicken bio I have to drive out 45 miles or wait for the special weekly market, 60 miles in another direction. ALL very tedious.

France is the biggest user of nitrates, nitrites, phosphates, organophosphatesa insecticides and ALL the rest of the whole UE. Followed by Ireland. UK comes further down on the list. So, fruits and veggies are...not that good. And again, very diff to find bio products. When you do, they are not only expensive, but, rather sad and limp!

So, all in all, I'd definitely saya that food in France is nowwhere as good as in the UK. Even their bread, IF you buy the pain complete (complte) the flour is milled straight from the full grain, incl husk, WITH all the pesticides etc etc on the husk, which one then imbibes... eek2 (There was an interesting article on this very subject a few months ago.) So I stay clear from the pain complete. Love the pain au cereals, bread with cereals added. That is yummy, but... (Apart from the pesticides, which are there but not quite so abundantly as in pain complete, it does a number to my gut wall whistle)

For other meats? Beef is revolting. Tough and stringy, no flavour, no matter what you pay - feed lots of course! Lamb is not too bad - nowt much you can do TO lamb smile. But very expensive, like Euros 32 per kilo (E16 per lb, about $12/14 per lb). Pork is cheap,, they raise a lot of pork over here, but factory farmed. No flavour.

Fish is good. An abundance of fish - a lot of it imported, even imported from Vietnam. And then re-frozen! Bought some last week...ummmmm. Won't bother again. Tasteless, in spite of cooking it in white wine and herbs etc. Most disappointing. Good shell fish, though don't indulge too much in shell fish - always 'wary' of the waters it's gathered from... alien Much of the fish is farmed. Which I refuse to buy into.

No. French food? Not even their pastries - but then Germany and Austria for pastries, and of course, same for breads: Germany is famous for amazing breads - nowt like that over here. So, one is left with the famous baguette and the croissant. Yes. I eat those temps en temps.

At the nd of the day, alla rather sad. Prefer Greek food and as for Belgium, Yeeeeees. Good food in Belgium. The Belgians really know how to eat well and fantastic supermarkets, much better than here in France (have to go to Paris for GOOD supermarkets). But much of ALL supermarket food is mass and factory produced, everywhere.

Open markets used to be good over here, but now, again (and by and large) the same products that you find in the supermarkets.

In the UK - especially where I lived in LIncolnshire (fab ara in which to live) good food and good small food shops. The provinence of the meat always written up outside the butcher's shop...good stuff. Really miss the ***Excellent quality of meat, and the abundance of bio food that is readily available in the UK - WOW. 1cup Nowt like to it over here. (Yes, IF I could sell this place, and find a cheap place in the UK, I'd return!)

OK. Long diatribe on French food yes

Take care you guys - eat well. (Am on coffee this morning, don't feel like eating any of what's on offer - in the house!) Sigh! <LOL>


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thanks for that molly, i appreciated it. always interesting to have certain impressions from what the media feeds you (no pun intended! ha!) and then to hear the perspective of someone living it. sounds like i have it better here in U.S., do have lots of organic choices in grocery store, free range animals, and the local orchards and nursery in the summer and fall months, and then of course, growing our own, our idea of "pesticides" is to pick the potato beetles off by hand and throw them in buckets of water, avoid pesticides and herbicides not just for us, but for the birds and bees and butterflies too. and there is the slow food movement, hope that really catches on more and more. so long as someone doesn't burst my bubble concerning italian food, then i think i wouldn't survive! lol!



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MEPs to debate ban on toxic chemicals and cuts in ...
Under the proposed new Europe-wide rules, pesticide use will be either forbidden or severely reduced if close to schools and parks or near hospitals. ...
www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?language=EN&... - Similar

That one really makes me smmile - so, surround the kids with the stuff elsewhre and smother the food chain with it...great! Not.

Environmental Health | Full text | Potential developmental ...
Laboratory experimental studies using model compounds suggest that many pesticides currently used in Europe – including organophosphates, carbamates, ...
www.ehjournal.net/content/7/1/50 - Similar

Above, good article. Well researched, excellent references. Pretty scary as well - 2008. Fairly recent.

PAN Europe - Welcome
Seven of the pesticides commonly used in schools may have serious negative ... by many years and Europe's pesticide approval process has yet to tackle new ...
www.pan-europe.info/ - Similar

Pesticide use in Europe - part one: Norway, Italy & Sweden
Pesticide use in Europe - part one. Pesticides sales in Europe are increasing ( see right). Levels of usage vary between countries (below). ...
www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Issue/pn39/pn39p18.htm - Similar

Hope Italy's usage is not as bad as France and Ireland. Mebbe? This info is 12yrs old, so somewhat out of date, as shows Ireland as a low user, not what the info I saw last year said. Italy's use looks to be high, here. But that might have changed since. See France - shocking.

Here in France it is dire - hence growing my own...as indeed a number of French people still do. But, do observe em using the noxious poisona. Sigh. Yes, with you, Sue, all the other life in the garden, the beneficial ones. Yes, same here, buckets of water and a salt bucket for the slugs and snails. Wish I had a hedgehog, but don't see many of those. See IF I can hijack one from somewhere ('could' bring one over from the UK, but...ho-hum. Perhaps not! shocked2)


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