Kickas.org Forums Ankylosing Spondylitis General Discussion #1 AS Web Support Group refusing to adjust your diet - ur soft in the head

My beloved darlin horse - my lovely AMA La Duquesa. A Peruvian Paso, Darryn. Had to be euthanised, DSLD/ESPA. A very nasty, debilating, incurable, systemic and painful condition. Sigh.

PPs are lateral gaited. Real soft to ride, the 'Rolls Royce' ride. NO bounce. Just flow along, soft an sparkling. Wonderful horses for persons with AS, OA, RA to ride, cause they are sooooo smooth. NO soreness, ever.

I will only ride the soft gaited 4-beat lateral breed of horse. PPs or PP x RMH (Rocky Mountain Horse). Have to go rather a distance to ride em though...

PPs also have a great temperament. Just lovely to be around.

Kind of you to enquire, my thanks.

Kev,

I am with you on that one!

Lisa

i've never claimed NSD is A CURE FOR AS....this above statement is incorrect. please show me where i claimed this "cure" and i will take it back.

im not saying or ever said that any diet is a CURE for AS. What you are saying i said is totally incorrect. Im very aware there is NO cure for AS, but this doesnt mean "just give up the fight for a pain free life style"...for me anyhow.

Love you Molly...a true lady is what you are.

Im sorry to hear about your beloved horse, I know what an animal lover you are. I think there will be a special place in heaven for people like you that care for those that can not speak for themselves.

Lisa

OK, Lisa or Molly help me out. I have not read all of these posts but I happen to click on this and got your last one. What happened to Molly's horse? I know how she loves her animals and I am quite an animal lover too. Grew up riding horses.

Let me know.

Possi

Darryl,

how about bringing back your old sig -- it was interesting to those of us who have both determination and ability** to work on our diets.


** NOT meant to be a judgment on non-dieters reading this thread. There are plenty of reasons it might not work out for someone -- how about being on welfare because you're too sick to work and thus not having money to buy healthful food

So you are saying that if I, or anyone, accepts the right foods we'll have remission of AS. That's pretty much a cure.

How do you know it will work for me? How do you know it will work for anyone?
Just because it might give you some lessening of pain doesn't extrapolate into a blanket statement that applies universally.
If I am wrong, please show some studies (or even one study) where a procedure/diet/medicine that works for you proves that it will work for everyone else.

this is your opinion, not my statement.

Hi, cryssfriend:

Sorry, You are right but it think that even Ebringer would cringe at the oat meal (I'll ask but he once told us that any reduction in starches was a positive thing--it just may not show results as quickly), but not so much the rice, despite his perhaps unfortunate use of "reduce." His diet was sort of a compromise and was used in conjunction with enteric-coated sulfasalazine which has antibiotic properties.

In the early stages, until remission has been achieved, it is better to be very strict and even eliminate dairy.

Grains are not necessary, particularly healthy, or in any way natural for humans. Ruminant animals eat grains and are genetically engineered to process them completely.

Some vegetables cannot be eaten safely--like eggplant and some squashes (these must be tested after cooking) and cooking helps release the starch. I can eat raw carrots in moderation and raw cauliflower, also, but cooked they are each very provocative. Potatoes are of course way off limits.

I missed corn very much, so tested those tiny whole ears in can and they were safe (did not indicate with iodine), but I seldom eat these.

Bananas are way too starchy, and even apples must be tested. I think the only fruit that does not require testing are melons and berries and grapes are inherently safe. Some have perhaps had some trouble with melons at times as I recall from the NSD Forum.

Your diet is restrictive and should include nuts (except peanuts and cahsews)--best snack is raw almonds and raisins but even almond skins are too starchy for some. Walnuts, pistachios, and macadamia nuts are good. Tofu is safe and I have even prepared these as "steaks" with A1 sauce, which I don't react to. Actually many spices are too starchy for some, but I have never reacted to pepper and like Carol Sinclair also never reacted to garlic "flour" or mustard flour.

Please check out the NSD Forum for more food choices. I have even obtained those starch-free (and calorie-free) "noodles" and the "flour" (it is a mushroom fiber).

The NSD is inconvenient and somewhat frustrating, but it certainly beats the alternative in my case--I had too many episodes of iritis and suppose that I'm the one who ate starch until I need glasses {:-))

HEALTH, regained to a greater measure than You ever expected through Your own efforts,
John