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Always interesting to see how those with a medical background go about treating AS or "inflammation-(infection) induced rigor mortis".

I hate reading stuff about root canals as I had one done when I was 10 and always wonder if it contributes in some way to health problems. The majority of evidence seems to suggest that it is unlikely but what sort of odds make it worth the risk considering that you have them for the rest of your life. If there is a 1/100 chance that it is causing problems and it costs $1000 to remove is it worth it? What about a 1/10 chance?

And what happens if you get it taken out? Do you just have a hole or do they put in a fake tooth. And is that just as dangerous?

O my gosh JROC, that makes me sick. I got 3 root canals in the years immediately proceeding my Eruption of AS symptoms. And how does one stimulate their adrenals??

apparantly with licorice & ginseng - http://www.ehow.com/how_5612200_stimulate-adrenal-glands.html
or else you could go skydiving, big wave surfing, watch a scary movie or pay a hired boogie man to hide somewhere in your house and jump out at you when you least expect it.

what was the reason that you had root canals done? mine was because i got hit in the jaw playing rugby and then the tooth died. i don't remember the procedure being painful at all and it has never caused any pain in the 15 years since i had it done so i think that the chances of it causing problems are very low.

Reasons not to be too worried: most of the evidence that root canals can cause serious health problems comes from research done in the early 1900's and i think that there is a big difference between the way they were done then and the way they are done now. since then the theory of root canals causing disease has been largely disproved by doing large scale population analysis of root canals and health problems.

"For instance, it's thought erroneously by many that root canals cause illness. This claim is based on research performed in the early 1900s, which suggested that bacteria trapped in the teeth during root canal treatment can cause almost any type of disease, including arthritis, heart disease and kidney disease. While bacteria can indeed be found in the teeth and mouth, their presence does not constitute "infection" and is not necessarily a threat to a person's health. In fact, other researchers have been unable to duplicate this research over the years, and believe that these early findings may have been caused by poor sanitation and imprecise research techniques that were common in that period. Recent studies indicate that teeth receiving proper endodontic treatment do not cause illness."
http://www.advancedendodonticsassociates.com/myths.nxg

this does not mean that there is no risk at all. there is a definite chance of infection with a root canal. its just that the risk is very low and if it was badly infected it would probably be painful and you would be aware of it. there is also the fact that dental health is related to overall health and not just how often you brush your teeth or whether you eat too much candy. those who have serious tooth decay that requires a root canal could be more likely to have have health problems in the first place. its definitely something to be aware of though and keep on eye on in case any problems develop in the future.

PS funny thing from the original article: "I had them taken out. Within a half hour, I could feel myself coming back to life. My mind cleared. My energies and urges to be active rapidly returned." Surely that couldn't be anything to do with the drugs they give you when you have your teeth pulled!

Holy Crap! Those last things could also give me a heart attack!! I better stick with the licorice and ginseng! A hired boogie man?? I can't stop laughing. That would be horrible to KNOW someone might jump out at you. Everytime you open the shower curtain ........or walk around a corner .........or turn a light on in a dark room! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (screams) My adrenals would probably konk out. lol.

When I was a kid I had an idiotic dentist who thought the grooves in my teeth were too deep and would definitely get cavities so he got my parents to agree to let him fill all of my back teeth with amalgam fillings, which we find out today are toxic. yay. So fast forward to my adult years and my current dentist took out all the amalgam over the course of 4 years. Three had decay underneath and it was so deep I had to have root canals and crowns. Yuck. My first major symptom of AS was TMJ in my jaw and a stiff neck IMMEDIATELY after the first amalgam removal and root canal. Coincidence?

If your pain started in the jaw and then spread to neck immediately after a root canal then I think you are right to be suspicious of it. When you get amalgams removed apparently it causes a temporary increase of mercury in the body. Mercury is known to deplete glutathione levels. Glutathione (along with zinc & selenium) is crucial to the functioning of the Th1 part of the immune system and a defiency in any of these can cause an immune deficiency on the Th1 side. The Th1 side plays an important role in getting rid of infections. Potentially reducing the immune systems ability to fight infection (through increased mercury levels following amalgam removal), immediately followed by a procedure at which there is a risk of infection, could potentially increase the chance of complications. Might be worth getting them checked out.

I had my mercury level tested in 2008 when I was trying to find a Dx, but it came back normal. Is glutathione a supplement? Is it the same as L-glutamine? I will start taking that with some zinc and selenium. My one remission came on after I started taking zinc.
Hmmmmmmmmm.

How would one get root canals checked out? And how did you get so smart?

I had three root canals last year after a bridge failed to hold on the supporting teeth. I developed TMJ in the jaw and had neck pain that took three months to go away. to tell you the truth I think keeping my jaw open so wide for so long during the procedure triggered the problem. My massage therapist is amazing. She actually worked inside my mouth to release the muscles and the problem went away.

You don't have to worry about glutathione if you don't have mercury issues. Any increase in mercury levels would have only been temporary after amalgam removal and your test confirms this. You get plenty of glutathione if you are eating a high protein diet (provided you are producing enough stomach acid to activate pepsin and break down proteins). Supplementing it doesn't work anyway as it doesn't get absorbed but apparently one of its precursors, N-AcetylCysteine is supposed to help. Don't worry about a selenium supplement either as a study showed that 1 brazil nut a day is more effective. Supplementing zinc probably doesn't hurt but too much zinc can negatively impact iron and copper levels.



No idea. I thought dentists might be able to look for some sort of sign of infection. I'm not really smart - these days anyone can google something for 10 seconds, cut and paste a bunch of stuff and sound like an expert. So always do your own research before following anyone's advice on the internet (especially if its from Alan or Kevin )

My chiropractor massaged the inside of my mouth too. Sounds weird but it worked wonders!

Not smart? Yeah right. I read posts from you, DavidP, Dragonslayer and Molly and all of a sudden I'm staring at the computer with my mouth open like Homer Simpson. Der.

Thanks for the info!! And I will keep an eye on Alan and Kevin. Sheesh, Alan thinks that you can fix whatever ails ya by rubbing swarf on it, or just drinking some. Kids these days!