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I am trying a new med. Been on numerous biologics along with a handful of other meds. I am hoping by Christmas, I will feel better. Any opinions on the drug minocycline?
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Hi Winter,
Welcome to KA. I tried minocycline for 6 months with no improvement but I have RA not AS. It's possible that 6 months was not long enough but my CRP and ESR had got so high that my doc wanted to switch me to methotrexate and not wait any longer to see if minocycline might work. He was worried about internal organ damage from the high levels of inflammation if I waited any longer.
Wendy
Rheumatoid Arthritis Methotrexate, Celebrex, Plaquenil
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Hi Wendy: Thank you for sharing your experience and sorry you have RA. Are u still on methotrexate and if so, did it help pain and your CRP and ESR?
Meds -Hizentra, leflunomide, Prednisone
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Yes - I'm still on mtx - have been for over a year. I believe it's helping although I've also been taking progressively lower doses of prednisone and until I've weaned myself right off prednisone I'm not sure I can confirm that the improvement is entirely due to mtx. My CRP was over 100 and is down to about 11 - still too high but hugely improved. My ESR was just over 100 and is now down to normal. Pain levels also improved (although they're not completely gone) and I was able to wean myself off opioids.
Wendy
Rheumatoid Arthritis Methotrexate, Celebrex, Plaquenil
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I tried a 10 day run of Minocycline. When I was eating a strict no starch diet, it seemed to work. So I got excited thinking *maybe* I didn't need the diet, but the pain and stiffness came back with Mino and regular eating.
Good luck to you! -Donette
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I tried for a month to clear up an outbreak of foliculitis on my shoulder and chest. It helped a little. I saw no change in pain or stiffness in that month. However the month afterward, I tried Hibeclens skin cleanser and it worked better than the minocycline.
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Wendy, I am glad you are having improvement with methotrexate and prednisone. I am on prednisone too, 5mg every other day right now and it has been a life saver for me with flare ups to my joints and skin. Have u tried biologics? My sister, who also has AS told me methotrexate was hard on her body.
Meds -Hizentra, leflunomide, Prednisone
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Hi Donette: thanks for sharing your experience. I am 35 and feel 90 these days with low blood pressure, infections/viruses, poor sleep, dizziness and nausea and forgot to mention pain and stiffness all over. I put on a happy face for my family but inside I feel like I am dying. My new rheumy added minocycline to my list of meeds and it is helping with stiffness but It increased my dizziness and nausea today. So glad I have you guys for support . My family doesn't know how to support me.
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Winter,
I remember being dizzy/nauseated with mino too. I was also trying out a pain killer methadone for the first time too. I was so dizzy and sick that I laid in bed for 10 days last December. It was awful. I always assumed it was the methadone, but it could have been both.
Do you take anything to help your sleep? That is what I take the cyclobenzaprine (flexeril) for. It is a muscle relaxer and I take it before bed (5-10mg). I could NOT sleep before this med and thought I might lose my mind from lack of sleep. The only bad side effect I notice with this is that it is hard to wake up early. The earlier you can take it at night, the earlier you can wake up in the a.m. But prepare for total relaxedness/jello knees about 45 minutes after taking it. I don't hear my hubby's snoring anymore. Tee hee.
I also take LDN, (low dose naltrexone) also see ldn.org for more information. It is kind of an immune modulator, but has the opposite reaction of the prednisone, LDN boosts your immune system and many of us AS-ers feel it helps us heal faster from "injuries" or flares etc. With LDN, you are not supposed to take pain killers (although some AS-ers have tried and had some success so long as LDN was out of system prior to taking the painkiller.) Also no prednisone, or biologics as they lower immune, thus having the opposite effect. That the only bad side of LDN, no pred or pain killers.
Thats a lot of info, and I don't expect you to change all of your meds, these are just some suggestions that work for me. It is a long process trying everything out and then finding something your doc feels comfortable prescribing and that gives you some positive results.
I am also taking 2 nsaids right now (celebrex, etodolac) because the 2 together work magic for me. Alone, they only work when I am strict with the diet. I have just jumped back on the diet boat and am hoping to be able to drop one or both nsaids in the coming weeks. Last winter I didn't have LDN, (opted for pain killers which gave me constipation to the point where I wanted my life to end) and I need prednisone to get out of bed. (I also take zantac to protect my stomach while on nsaids).
This winter is soooooooo much better. I KNOW the diet makes a difference, and the two nsaids plus LDN plus my muscle relaxer make life liveable. I am not normal by any stretch of the imagination but I no longer feel like or desire death as a merciful release from this existence.
Glad you found us. This place is such a huge help to me.
Take Care, Donette
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think i've discovered a lot of the same things as donette,
instead of flexeril before bed, i take zanaflex. its similarly a muscle relaxant, but only lasts in the blood stream for 6 hours, perfect for a 7-8 hour night of sleep. it lowers my BP and makes me tired for only about an hour or two, an hour or so after taking it. when i took flexeril, i felt like zombie marshmallow man for days after the one pill; i just couldn't handle it. but the zanaflex is better for me. i also take it other times when i really need it, like yesterday, my neck and upper back/shoulder area was so bad, it did help a bit, that plus some ice and i was a bit better. i've also heard some like skelaxin. anyway, i agree with donette, muscle relaxants are a nice addition to the toolbox. it was the first med i was given successfully about 10 years ago that made a big difference.
i too am on LDN and have found it works just as donette explained it! another useful tool for the toolbox. i've been on it a little over a year now.
i also took pred for a week while on the LDN. maybe the LDN couldn't do its thing that way, i don't know. but the pred worked so awesomely on the inflammation, there really wasn't anything to "heal up", so maybe that's why.
currently looking for an anti-inflammatory. 9 down due to side effects. but going to try relafen next. in the meantime, flector patch over SI joint helps that, a lot.
so, like donette, have utilized a multi-pronged approach.
sue
Spondyloarthropathy, HLAB27 negative Humira (still methylprednisone for flares, just not as often. Aleve if needed, rarely.) LDN/zanaflex/flector patches over SI/ice vits C, D. probiotics. hyaluronic acid. CoQ, Mg, Ca, K. chiro walk, bike no dairy (casein sensitivity), limited eggs, limited yeast (bread)
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