I have said before that I am willing to publish any theory on this site that has worked against AS. There must be the little detail about RESULTS, however.
you'll need to get some papers on homeopathy then. at
lifeforce homeopathy they "have treated and documented over 100 cases of AS with significant success rate." now those are RESULTS!
Many hundreds have over the years had enough success employing his theories that, even if the theories were wrong, the methods will continue to be employed and a new theory must necessarily evolve which meets the same logical testing.
any treatments that work, will work regardless of any scientific theory.
"No theory changes what it is a theory about. Nothing is changed because we look at it, talk about it, or analyze it in a new way." - B.F.Skinner (no relation to principal Skinner).
however theories that attempt to explain the pathogenesis of diseases are not 'logically tested' simply by experimenting with treatments that are based the theory. they are tested by using the scientific method and examining the explanatory power of theory, how it fits in with the evidence, and whether the theory can be falsified. in the case of the klebsiella hypothesis, it has already been falsified.
The point is that I was not told of alternatives, or properly informed of the consequences of these agents.
so what would you think if a drug company disregarded cases when a drug didn't work and didn't acknowledge adverse effects. you would be furious, just as you were when you were not informed about side effects of NSAIDs. yet this is exactly what you do with NSD. you downplay cases where it doesn't work and don't pay much attention to adverse effects like when people report that their "cholesterol shot through the roof", "feeling like crap in every other way besides AS pain", "zero energy and was very irritable".
The very fact we are discussing this diet issue again, after so many years, only means that the dissenters do not have the will or capacity to disprove diet or disprove the germ connection.
i do have the will and capacity to disprove the germ connection and the single germ connection has been disproved. there is no 'nemesis germ' or 'agent provocateur'. it is likely that gut inflammation and gut bacteria are involved in AS but it is not simply one bacteria. i don't think anybody is trying to disprove diet these days.
For those of us who have the experience, the challenges and rhetoric are just more B.S. whether it is all dressed up in the lexicon of medical science, or more inane ramblings from the penumbra who call everything with which they disagree “pseudoscience,” but have never bothered to employ the scientific method for anything personal.
you just don't get it. in your head the NSD and klebsiella theory are so interconnected that you seem to think that just because someone doesn't believe in Ebringer's easily falsifiable nonsense that they don't believe in diet or self experimentation. i'm a huge fan of treating AS with diet and self experimentation.
I have tried to faithfully represent Professor Ebringer’s opinions and specific viewpoints in defending the working models, but only get challenged by ancient articles found again and again by gadflies Googling “AS + Klebsiella” or other similar useless things.
nice try but the ancient articles are Ebringer's. even his 2007 paper just cites all his old research from the 80's and 90's that has already been discredited and his 2011 paper is just an exercise in shifting the goalposts.
nothing new to offer, just more of the same; it gets tedious.
if only that were so. it is obvious from your responses earlier in the thread that you actually believed that all people with AS and even all people in this 'terrestrial epoch' had culturable klebsiella. it is quite clear that you were unaware that large percentages of AS patients have no culturable klebsiella or IgA-Kp.
as I have mentioned before, a literature search, properly conducted, will link diet with AS
i agree with you there. i firmly believe that there is a link between diet and AS due to the inflammation and gut connection.
the Main Forum and others are just along for the ride
wow. way to put those main forum non-NSD nobodies in their place!
