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My dear friends on the NSD and LSD:

Please help me on this one. For almost four months on NSD things were going absolutely great with the diet. I've cleared almost every pain I had, and that is wonderful.
But, in the past two weeks I have been craving for bread, like someone who stoped smoking and desesperatly wants a cigar.
And it is really just the bread. I don't miss the potatos, the pasta, the cakes, the beans... just the bread.
I can't even smell it, cause I go crazy.
In the past two weeks I have sinned. I ate, in two occasions, a piece of bread. And the world just stoped spinning when I tasted every bite.
I'm feeling so guilty... But it tasted so good!!!
I try to keep away from bread, like I pass to the other side of the street everytime I see a bakery. Now it's my husband who goes out to buy the bread for him and our son, to prevent me from eating a piece on the way home.

The truth is that eating those pieces of bread didn't make my AS worse. I hardly noticed differences. Could this mean I am healing my gut?
Do you think I could try to eat bread? Whole grains bread?

Zélia

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Go on, spoil yourself and enjoy it. Say one slice with your favourite meal of the day. We don't all wear sack cloth and ashes like John!


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OH! Zélia!!

SHAME ON YOU!

Just kidding...we all 'experiment' sometimes. Certainly, you are healing your gut enough to on rare occasion eat some treat. Not all of us are so lucky, but we appreciate (and even vicariously also imbibe) when at least one of our own can enjoy a simple thing like a slice of bread.

The whole point of the diet is that at least you know what causes AS, and can develop the ability to 'listen' to your body to the extent that you will find your own comfort level; that is a natural thing--to push it to the limit.

Things that can help you overcome cravings (if you want to...), especially if your AS acts up again: Unsweetened concord grape juice 4-6oz morning and late afternoon and if you can find glutamine (l-glutamine) take this with the grape juice at 500mg and once again at noon (3X 500mg daily). It also helps heal the tract.

bon appetit (but be careful...),
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And we all don't wear devil horns sprouting out of our foreheads like you !

If you are going to blow it (and I cheerfully admit that after several years of success I do blow it once in a while, but I still won't touch wheat because I believe gluten is the biggest culprit after slowly, slowly wading thru all those lovely technical papers Evelyn likes to post the links to ) at least blow it on rice and/or beans or something like that, and keep the 'blowing it' down to a minimum of a few times a week, truthfully monitering your response.

A bad response is a good motivator.

I think it's okay to eat whatever you want as long as you are honest about how you feel afterwards. I think a lot of the mock horror, pathos, tragedy, and discord that can be found as a response to our occasional forays over to the Gluey Forums is from some people who at one point realized that they DID feel a connection between their diet (or some other health related habit, like drinking or smoking) and their arthritric syndrome symptoms, but could not discipline themselves to follow through on it because it is difficult. Indeed, no one else was supposed to notice or mention it either, it's the perpetual lurking Elephant in the Room.

Alas for a small minority of the human race, the Elephant is not only highly visible but we lack the imagination needed to make him go away and the sense not to mention this in public discussions. For Successful Elephant Control, herding pachyderms into the correct savannahs and rainforests, we must look to the management philosphies outside of our western culture, to those of the Far East.

There are two kinds of denial. The kind that works, in the present time frame, and makes people feel better, and the kind that does not work, but is done as penance, and makes people feel angry and deprived. Disease is, unfortunately, seen as a type of punishment in our western culture instead of just another state of being. We can choose to compare ourselves to others, and try to make ourselves feel deprived, or we can go on happily trying to herd our Elephants into the gardens where they do the least damage. But the Elephants are not going away.

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hefalumps...

what about eyeores and tigers ?


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Hi Zelia,

I say -- if you can eat a piece of really yummy bread (make it worth it, afterall!) on occasion without feeling pain, go ahead and eat it on occasion. What I find is that it's the day-in and day out cheating that gets me into trouble. My tact of late has been to allow cheating for special occasions, but to stick pretty closely to the NSD otherwise. That way I don't feel totally deprived, but usually don't run into AS pain either.

Paula


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mmmmm bread!!!

Be careful! I was doing fine and decided to add some ify food back into my diet: chocolate, beer and coffee. No problem for about two months, so I thought I had healed my gut enough. Then bang, I was hit. I think that the ify food weakened my stomach enough, so that when I ate even a little starch (almonds with skins) it hit me big time. My stomach felt like it was 50 pounds, I felt nauseous, and all my glorious energy left me. On Sunday I could barely get out of bed. I am finally starting to feel better; and I think I learned my lesson. One cup of coffee once a week is okay, but two cups a day is not. We just bought a new coffee maker, so I had no choice but to drink. My point is just make sure you really limit your intake, and don' get caried away like I did. Otherwise, your bread craving will disappear just like my chocolate, beer, and coffee cravings have. If you can handle the bread, enjoy when you can!


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CRACKING UP ,FINALLY YOUS NEARLY MADE ME FALL OFF THE CHAIR i was going to comment on the great imagery by windrider till i saw alohaben's''hefalumps''and that did it for me .thanks for the laugh.--------------------------------zeliah, i,d go with you hearts desire and see how u feel.jude2-----------------still grinning about that

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Quote:

Unsweetened concord grape juice




Impossible, I guess. I never saw grape juice in portuguese supermarkets that don't have some sort of sweet. If not sugar, they have sweeteners.
And what does concord mean?
Maybe I'll try to find that grape juice in a healph store. Have to check it out.
The glutamine is easy to find.

Thank you
Zélia

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Uau... I don't think I have an elephant in my head. I don't want to blow my healph away. But since I am really feeling better, I think it's time to try somethings to see how far I can take it.
I know wheat is bad, but there are other grains, and I am going to investigate the bread section on my supermarket to see what else they have there. And I have an aunt who makes a delicious bread with corn flour.
Anyway, I don't want to go back eating starch like I did. Just want to know if I have the chance to give a bite occasionally.

Zélia

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