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Hi Lisa,
Thanks for your offer, but there isn't anything anyone here can do, but what they are already doing and that's allowing me to get everything out as it happens instead of holding it in, and listening to me as I do get it out.
I appreciate everyone having faith in us and believing in Eric, because it would be so easy for people to think that he had to do something wrong somewhere down the line, but I have been living with this for years and he has tried to be the best dad and his only mistake is believing in the justice system and not staying on the top of things. Like me, he didn't think they would or even could do everything they are.
We thought if we had receipts they would look at them and everything would be ok.
We can't get this put on hold or anything like that...already tried to put it off, but that's why he's not home right now...they found him in contempt because I didn't sign the papers. I feel bad.
We already have all the proof we're ever going to have, they just won't hear it because if they do they will also have to look at her committing welfare fraud and they won't allow that in because welfare isn't doing anything about it, because the statute of limitations has run out.
It's so complex and involved and this is why I can't find a lawyer to take it...not for free anyway and I don't have thousands of dollars to pay one.
Everything that was done was very sneaky.
Child support can't even say when this money was supposively owed now.
As of 1995 we had a statement saying the balance was 0. One day she said she never got any payments from 1992- 1995, which was when she was on welfare. So the courts saw she was on welfare back then and assumed he wasn't paying. But she was getting paid by both. Now they are saying we haven't paid anything in years because everything we were paying over the years was going towards the arrears, but we shouldn't have had any arrears. Unbeknownst to us...$400 a month was being attached for interest, which brought it up to a crazy amount. We got a statement which started showing that amount being attached and we didn't know what to do. We knew we never could pay this, so we were just hoping that every time he was broought into court, we could plead our case, but they just kept telling us to do things we couldn't.
In the meantime, every once in awhile he would get dragged in and they would tell them they wanted at least $7,000 or he would go to jail. We wouldn't have it of course so he would go to jail, and again I would have to run around, begging and borrowing so I could get him out.
But as long as that $400 was being attached, it just kept getting higher and higher.

Sorry, I know this is confusing and I am just trying to make it make sense to you and everyone else.
Last night he was hugging me and crying because he didn't want to leave me, and my mom and I felt so terrible.
I haven't heard from him since he left. I just hope he is home for Thanksgiving.

No, I am not sure where we are going to go yet.
They are showing the house tomorrow afternoon at 3:00.
The realtor said she has people interested in it already and it may go quick, but I told her the house cannot be sold until she can help us find something else and we are approved for a mortgage. I'll handcuff myself to the house if I have to.
I was looking yesterday at some of the houses on the market and our house is being sold for so little compared to what's out there so I don't know how we are going to be able to afford anything else.
God! Shacks were being sold for more than our house and I don't want to live in a shack, if we can even afford a shack.
Can you believe the court even put a cap on the maximum we can ask?

My mom is here, but she will be leaving for good to go back to Florida in Dec. She said when it comes time for us to move she will fly back to help us pack. I can't see her doing that nor do I even want her doing that.
She needs to go home to my dad and relax for awhile. We will manage.
UUUG! the thought of packing! I thought I would never have to pack again.
I'll probably just throw alot of stuff away because I won't want to pack it all. LOL
Ok, going to end here.
Thanks again for everything. I am going to try again to reply to some others.
Luv & hugs to you,
Lisa

Hi Buggy,
So good to hear from you!
As much as I hate to hear that you guys have had to go through this kind of crap too, it's still nice to be vindicated in a way.
Some people say "something else has to be going on, because the courts just don't do that" But they do!
And people say "there is no way a person can get around the system that easily" but if they're evil and greedy enough, they can and they do find ways, especially if they have the type of lawyers that hate men or woman or whoever they are going against and believe me...this lawyer his ex has can't stand men and would do anything to win this. Plus, she is getting alot of money out of it to.
This woman has stood in the hallways of the court with her finger in Eric's face threatening to put him right back in jail.
Yup, sounds like his ex is alot like Eric's ex, especially with pulling out of the oxygen tank.
Eric's ex was in a room with Eric's public attorney ( who is worthless by the way) but he couldn't believe how evil and crazy she was in that room, but then walks up and gets on the stand and starts crying and pleading to the court to help her because she is so poor and may not be able to put her son through college next semester. He is in college ow because he is going under our income which allowed him grants and help with financing.
He couldn't go under his mothers income because she made too much money.
How she can think she can get away with the lies is beyond me, but she does it because she knows she can and has gotten away with it.
Wish we could get a judge like the one Robert got.
Wouldn't that shock her if the judge said he wanted her investigated?
That's all we need is one fair judge to say, "let's take another look at all of this"
I hear ya about th stalking too. His ex used to stalk us all of the time.
She would call us a million times just to embarass us so we wouldn't be able to stay and enjoy our time there.
God forbid we would be able to go out to dinner. That just couldn't happen. She knew where we were at all times.
Anyway Bug, thanls for your understanding. I know everyone here is trying to understand and be here for me, but it's nice to know that somebody understands because they have been through it with a crazy person like Eric's ex.

Thanks for replying and for being a great friend.
Give the kids hugs and kisses for me and tell them their "little star" will send something to them as soon as I can ok.
Luv & hugs,
Lisa

Hi Lori,
Thanks for replying to my awful post.
Yeah, you along with many others, especially in the WF have known for years now what I have been dealing with where this woman ( if we can call her that).
We thought things were bad a few years ago...never thought it would go this far. I remember you wanting to come over here and take care of her for me. HA HA I actually thought about you or Bruno. I thought Bruno was a better idea because he wouldn't get in as much trouble, but I think he got lost. lol
Anyway, I really don't want to move, but maybe it's meant to be.
They are showing the house tomorrow. My mom and I thought maybe we should trash it then nobody would be interted in it as much. LOL Only problem with that, we would have to clean it afterwards.
One good thing right now though...the sump pump downstairs that keeps the water out of the basement (living on an island makes for soggy soil) just stopped working for some reason this morning, so by tomorrow we may have a couple inches of water down there. Not a good selling point...ya think?
Can't let it get too bad though so we have to keep an eye on it...not like we really know what to do to fix it, besides playing with the pump, which she tried already.
I'll let you know what happens with the showing tomorrow, unless we drown first. Bloop bloop!

Luv & hugs to ya,
Lisa

Thanks Molly,
I don't know how anyone can live with themselves that can do that to anyone. I couldn't do anything even close to even anyone I hated, but I don't even hate anyone.
I can't even say I hate her, I don't know what I feel when it comes to her. I just know she has to be a pretty unhappy person to have that much evil inside her.
I remember when I first thought she was going to get in trouble for welfare fraud when that first came out, I actually felt bad that she may end up getting in trouble. I didn't like the fact that something bad could happen to someone because of something we said or did. People kept trying to convince me that it wasn't us getting her in trouble, it was her own greed...we were just trying to protect ourselves. It took me awhile to accept that.

I like to believe what goes around comes around, and I don't think I would feel bad about it now, because I believe something has to happen to get her to put herself in other peoples shoes, so she can see what it feels like, and maybe she won't be so hurtful to others.
She has to stop hurting people, especially her children.
I could get into something very terrible that she did to her daughter, but it best I not. But just put it this way, she hurt her daughter like I never thought a mother would or could. Her daughter ended up moving in with her grandmother (Eric's mom) and then moved out of the state.
I cried for nights for my step daughter...imaging how her heart must be breaking, and it was after that when I decided it didn't bother me anymore what happened to Eric's ex wife.
Ok, I'll stop rambling now.
Thanks again for the encouraging words!
Hope this reply finds you well and having a good weekend!
Hugs,
Lisa

Thanks Rita,
I am hoping something happens before we lose the house, but with the house showing already tomorrow, something tells me it's going to happen.
Now I am just trying to find positive ways to look at it.
After looking at the housing market though...it was a little scary.
As much as I have tried to reason and be kind to this woman, to have who be even worse than she was years ago still has me wondering "what the heck?" I truly don't get it, but just want to be done with her once in for all with nothing that she can hold over our heads anymore, but something tells me she'll find something else.
Like I said in my reply to Molly or someone else, I don't like seeing anything bad happen to anyone, not even someone who has wronged my family for so long, but I am now finding myself hoping that something will happen that will teach her some compassion.
She hates animals and that should have told me something a long time ago.
Her kids used to be afraid of my animals because they never had a pet.
Maybe if her parents bought her a dog or or something when she was young she wouldn't be so bad.
I think it should be a law that every child own a pet so they can learn love, compassion and responsibility. HA HA Maybe they would turn out to be better adults. LOL

Anyway, thanks again for caring!
Hugs,
Lisa

Yeah, I remember all the crap with this woman....I can still come over and take care of her.

Let the water stay in the basement, tell people everything that is wrong with the house. Make it sound like a blessing that you are moving out to get rid of the white elephant. Discourage everyone that is interested.

Keep me updated, and let me know if I can help with anything. I really am not that far away you know.

love ya

Tim, this is a horror story and has been ever since she's been in my life.
Guess I spoiled her plans by falling in love with her ex and that angered her to no end. I never thought anyone could be capable of hating anyone so much and she didn't start hating Eric so much until he started dating and she hated me because I started dating him. I guess he belonged in his mother's basement the rest of his life while she did as she pleased and lived off his checks and welfare. Like I said, I spoiled her plans.

Well, I've lived through her crap for 12 years and things couldn't get worse than they are now..I don't think anyway. So, if we manage to get through this, life she start looking up. It's just the not knowing right now that's a little scary. I just had to open up my mind to moving again, which I wasn't at first because I love my home, but all houses can be made into a home right? As long as I have my family, my pets and my PC so I have you guys...I'll manage!

Thanks again for listening and replying... giving me encouragement every time I need to ramble.
Hey, did you get a new picture?

HUgs,
Lisa

Oh Lisa my heart just breaks for you from reading this thread. It is hard to fathom that anyone could be sooo evil and nasty, and to someone as sweet as you of all people.

I can't believe this is still going on after all this time and that you may actually lose your home now. As dreadful an ordeal as it would be, have you considered exposing this in the media? There might be some major outlet that would be interested in a story such as yours which illustrates the bias or utter incompetence of the judicial system in these matters? It might at least serve to draw the interest of a law firm to take on your case without compensation. That statute of limitations part is just mind boggling. What a travesty.

I hope that somehow some way this mess might get righted and soon.

Many many huge hugs of support Lisa.
mig

Lisa,
That may be an idea, put the house in disrepair and nobody will want it. Or if you are determening the price,put it up there.

I cannot help but think that in the court system there is always an appeal system and you can keep it up.

I also would think you could call for an investigation into the handling of your case. News article may be good idea but you never know what you may get for a rebuttle.

Lastly, I wonder if you have really good enough legal representation. It does not sound like it to me. To many things not right here.

Do you qualify for legal aid? Is somebody paying the Judge? You can do everything to appeal and ask for different representation because of possible bias?

You know who may help, is call your state senator and tell him or her. Make an appt. and take everything with you, like witnesses.

Don't part with your animals to quick.

~Kewanee

Yup, It's still going on after all these years.
I can't wait for it to be done and over with, but she will probably find something else to drive us crazy with.
Yes, the media has crossed my mind, but for lot's of reasons we decided against it. You never know though, it still could end up in the media... if I chain my hospital bed with myself and my dogs in it to the property. HA HA
Thanks for your support Mig. You and so many others have been going through this with me from the beginning. Your support and encouragement has gotten me this far and has helped me to be strong for my husband too.
Hugs,
Lisa
PS
My neighbor just showed up at the door. He spotted the for sale sign on the lawn and he is not a happy neighbor right now.