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I read once in a while that fried foods cause flares. What about fried eggs? Like an omelet fried in oil? How about fried spinach to wilt it?

Are there any fried foods that are good? What are some really bad ones? What about chicken wings?

Thanks in advance

Hey Moosey.

My Jon doesn't have any probs with pan fried foods. The first year of NSD he had fried eggs and bacon every morning and lots of stir-frys with no probs. I think maybe deep fried foods may be more of a problem for some?

We often grill/broil chicken wings for lunch... one of Jon's favourites.

Chelsea

I believe that Dragonslayer says that the combination of starch and fat like you would find in a breaded and fried food like onion rings is the worst thing for him.

I don't think you should have any trouble with frying things as long as you aren't using something starchy like a breading.

Karen

I also had a general question on eggs. I tend to eat a lot of eggs these days. Breakfast and sometimes on lunchj too, upto 6 somtimes in a day....

It should not help my digestion or bowel motion, right? Also, the fat content, should it be avoided mostly. I am afraid i am consuming too much fat which is evident from the fact i am not losing weight ispite of being on LSD.

In regards to fried eggs, I imagine the type of oil used is important to overall health (indepedent of NSD/LSD). I only use EV coconut oil for cooking now as it is purported to be very stable when heated. I've read how certain cooking oils turn into trans fat when they're heated (or something like that). Unfortunately, there's so much conflicting information out there, that you have to pick your poison (not literally!). For example, some people feel that olive oil turns into a trans fat when heated to high temperatures, but there are conflicting reports there.

As for fried food in general, I've avoided it. Not necessarily to comply with NSD/LSD, but because fried foods can be very hard on your digestive tract. There's too many links out there between good GI health and AS; I figure best to play it safe and go with an NSD/LSD diet that consists of food that are easier to digest. It stinks to give up so many yummy foods, but the potential payoff (better health) is worth the sacrifice.

The question about fat content is also interesting and again there are too many conflicting theories. I suspect that it's the type of fat that you should focus on. You shouldn't worry about monounsaturated fats (e.g. avocado, EV olive oil, EV coconut oil, etc.) and really guard against the trans fats (hydrogenated oils, fried foods). Another example: Fats from fish oil and nuts are good, but fats from pork are probably not that good for you. Experts claim that the different fats each regulate good and bad cholesterol in different ways. There are little kernels of truth to all the various theories out there, so you just have to evaluate the potential benefits against the potential risks and pick something that best fits your unique situation. I've lost so much weight from the NSD/LSD diet, that I'm indiscriminant about the amount of monounsaturated fats that I get and only worry about trans fats and an excessive amount of saturated fats (e.g. from animals).

The last point I found helpful is that I use my digestion to give me an indication of whether or not my body likes it. I've been eating fried eggs every day and will not get any gas, but when I ate fried foods or a hamburger, I would get the worst gas in the world (sorry for the image/virtual odor). In addition to the all important iodine test, I use those hints to help me determine whether or not I should be eating various foods.

Good luck!

Freddie

Thanks for this thread....

Chicken wings are in my top 5 favorite foods of all time....Hopefully I can eat the non breaded type still....
It would be nice to keep something I really like in my diet !!!!

Dan C.

Be aware that eating too many egg yolks can cause a flair secondary to the arachidonic acid.(inflammatory precurser if I recall.) I started making these egg shakes from the healing Bee website and eating 6 eggs a day started to put me into a flare. I am fine with a couple eggs 4-6 days a week for breakfast though. You will have to see how your body reacts. Good fats are not a bad thing however. you should not avoid eating saturated fat, it is not unhealthy. Man made fats are unhealthy.

I use unrefined organic coconut oil or butter for frying/sauteing eggs or swiss chard.

Are you adding the cinnamon and nutmeg to your raw egg drink? These are the ingredients that caused the flare for me. Spices are starchy in large amounts. I found I could tolerate 1 egg drink fine, but having one, 2 or 3 consecutive days in a row caused a flare.

Initially I was doing the cinnamon but then just vanilla... much much better. I am pretty sure it was too much egg yolk for me.. i eats lots of cinnamon in other things, so I don't think it was the cinnamon.. but now I will be looking for a connection.
Thanks, Alecia