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Errr...is it Arthur!!

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I think you're thinking of Dusty Springfield, aren't you? By the way, the other guy is Tim - and was not actually her brother, but someone named Rashad Feild. Tom was her brother, whose real name was Dion O'Brien.

God I love google.

And I forgive the error. Your brain is notably dusty!!!


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Hmmm, is that the same Arthur that had something to do with a sword and stone????


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methinks dear Kat that if there is a rusty brain then it be thine old thing.......was a play on words..........will leave you to consider it...........lol Now Dean the breadknife seller, yes

Arthur jones who bought some stones
and got his sword stuck in em,
he pulled and tugged and shoved and pushed but
for his crown could nothis sword retrieve from

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No, you're thinking of the Dudley Moore film of the same name!


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Originally Posted By: DragonSlayer


Hi, Reese:

AS is a disease, caused by our bodies' reaction to the over-proliferation of the germ Klebsiella pneumoniae.

Our bodies react more to this germ than other bodies because 1) We are genetically predisposed to AS and 2) We have enough intestinal permeability to allow the germ greater access to our secondary immune system.

If You fast for ten days You will no longer have AS, but it is not really a disease caused by food poisoning, however, once the offending foods are eliminated most disease activity is eliminated. This is not so easy to do, so we need drugs. I prefer antibiotics, since they treat the CAUSE instead of just symptoms.

Fasting for ten days may not take the pain away because AS causes structural damage, over time. The sooner we can get on the NSD the less damage we will have:

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So my question is really, by reducing the amount of starch we take in, is it really slowing the effects of the disease? That would suggest that it is a reaction instead of a disease.


I know of several other individuals, on the diet for many years, who absolutely know and claim that the totally halted the damage to where they were when they began the diet, I only include myself in this list because I halted the symptoms but I already had much skeletal damage--AS is a runaway freight train, however, and the osteoporosis after so many years is still giving me trouble. That is why I encourage our younger members to avoid my mistakes. DIET is EVERYTHING (Edgar Cayce to his biographer who had AS albeit not identified officially as anything but "reactive arthritis" certainly it was AS due to Reiter's.) and the most important DMARD (Disease Modifying Anti-Rheumatic Diet) there is, but it takes patience, practice, and self-discipline.

I hope we do not eat much Klebsiella, but if we do (and are not taking too many antacids or PPIs) I'm sure we digest them well enough so that they don't cause too much trouble. We need to "substrate modulate" to control AS; we will always have Klebsiella. (I think Humphrey Bogart said that...),

G'Day
John



I have a few questions about this post, John, and I hope you won't think I am trying to attack you in any way. While I do disagree with you on this topic, you've obvioulsy done a lot of study on it and I respect that very much.

You wrote: "AS is a disease, caused by our bodies' reaction to the over-proliferation of the germ Klebsiella pneumoniae."

If so, why didn't I always react to this germ? And just to pre-empt the kind of answer I might give to this question were I on the other side of the argument, the following answer: "you DID react to it, you just didn't know it" to me, isn't a suitable reply.

You wrote: "If You fast for ten days You will no longer have AS".

I know you can't mean that. If that were true, after fasting for 10 days, my body (based on your definition of AS) would no longer react to the overproliferation of the germ Klebsiella pneumoniae. Can you clarify that statement?

You wrote: "I know of several other individuals, on the diet for many years, who absolutely know and claim that the [NSD] totally halted the damage to where they were when they began the diet, I only include myself in this list because I halted the symptoms but I already had much skeletal damage..."

This is impossible to know, in my opinion, because there's no evidence that that same person might have had the same reaction without going on the NSD. From what I understand, AS can go into "remission" in some people. I just don't believe that there is enough hard, scientific evidence to support your statement. But I will be very pleased to see any hard, scientific evidence that you might have; I'm very open minded that way. wink

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Quote:
The pain is always there, to the point that it's like white noise


confused2 Being a very visual thinker, I'd have to say that "white" conjures up images of clouds, cherubs and soft fluffy kittens.

Mine would definitely have been Hot Angry orange to red noise!!! Of course, accompanied by jarring "jing, jing" scratching violins! mad


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Dudley More had no sword
Neithe rdid Lisa Minelli
He was a pianist playing lord
and she had a fabulous belly


Am watching this thread now.....oh yes

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Sorry 'bout that. I think of it kind of like static on an old UHF tv channel. It ranges from mildly irritating but bearable to pounding the crap out of the side of the tv to make it stop!

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I don't think I want to know how you know anything about Liza Minelli's belly, Alan. I really really don't.

Warm hugs,


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