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so, in february i've tested positive to Helicobacter pylori. a quick ecography showed some small gastritis.

My GI - same one wich i see for my UC - said that she would not push antibiotics on me, since they are not recomended for UC'ers. She told me to wait for better days to use them and she gave me a recipe (amoxycillin and clarytomicin combined with nexium and some probiotics).

At the beginning of august i've had some throat pain and tested positive for staphylococcus aureus. Since the antibiogramme showed that is sensitive to clarytomicin i've said it's time for me to chase both rabbits and kill them both. My AS and UC were both in remission since february/march

so i've started a 7 days treatment with antibiotics.

during those 7 days i've ate only safe NSD foods for me (no fruits to avoid candida, no wine and so on).

Diarrhoea installed from the first day. after the fourth day stools become more consistent, but still not normal.
No As pains during the treatment.

Now, i've finished the antibiotics, and hell got loose: UC pain, small cloths of blood in stools, increase bowel movement, huge bowel pain and off course on top of this: lumbar pain, thoracic stiffness and pain all over may ribs. Not to mention urinary infection.

So, my 2 cents - antibiotics are not for everyone smile
I'm sure i'll get over this in a couple of weeks, but i've learned my lesson - no more antibiotics, unless i am under a death sentence.


34. Some rheumys say AS stage 1-2 some others say USpA
Also UC - rectocolitis.

UC curently in remission since feb 2011.
AS/USpA remission march-aug 2011. Flare - sept-nov 2011 (antibiotics). Remission now...

Modified NSD/SCD. Cook your own !
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sorry the antibiotics did this to you no

i needed them earlier this summer when i had a tooth extracted / bone graft done. and the amoxicillin did a number on my bowels. the only thing that helped make it not an impossible situation was tons of yogurt and taking my probiotics.

but i agree, antibiotics not for everyone. i won't take them unless i have to. and thankfully that's not very often.

even worse than what you describe, if C. diff gets out of control from antibiotic use. one reason for why the probiotics are so essential.

interestingly, the video that jroc linked talked about making sure to take probiotics while on antibiotics. but even that not always good enough.

at least i didn't end up in as bad of a flare as you did. once i stopped the antibiotics, things returned to normal in a few days.

but i don't have UC, probably the biggest difference.

yet, others here talk about using antibiotics to heal the gut; interesting topic.



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That's a real bummer Alinus. Clarythromycin is one of the very few antibiotics that I can take - most do horrors to my gut, like erithromycin (which just about kills me!) The probiotics should be kicking in. Hope you're over this soon.

Molly
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Sorry to hear about this setback Alinus. And you had been doing so well it sounded like too, up until this point. Frustrating!

Hope some GI balance settles in soon...


B27+, 2nd Rheumy: 'inflammatory backpain'.
IBS + SI/lumbar/thoracic/cervical/knee/elbow stiffness & pain.
Managing inflammation very well with diet since Jan 2011.
Slow but consistent reduction in symptoms year by year.
Haven't seen a physician in years.
Took LDN (4.5mg) between 2013-2015, 2018-2019.
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Alinus I am sorry to hear what you've been through. I hope you get through this sooner than you think. Sending you heaps of healing thoughts.


Molly

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thank you all for you good thoughts.

at this moment my bowel movements decreased a little bit (i hope it's not temporary), but i cannot move anything up my pelvis without pain.
strange, aside my sternum witch is very painful at ribs insertions, the other problems seem more like muscular problems than bone inflammation. something like muscular spasms/cramps. No rotation of my spine is allowed without spasms/pain. A lot of fatigue also.

anyway, patience is a virtue smile so the only thing to do is to keep the faith and wait for better times.


34. Some rheumys say AS stage 1-2 some others say USpA
Also UC - rectocolitis.

UC curently in remission since feb 2011.
AS/USpA remission march-aug 2011. Flare - sept-nov 2011 (antibiotics). Remission now...

Modified NSD/SCD. Cook your own !
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Mesalazine-Salofalk 500 mg/day

And the list of my medication has become verry short after some years on this diet smile
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back from a 2 weeks nice vacation in Spain.

since my last post i've been in and out of flares (mostly AS).

In the last august week i was almost unable to walk nor sleep(my left SI joint and some killing pain in T1/T2 did not agree with me). Then things settled for one week, then i was back again in the wounded cart.

True, i've made some excesses during my vacation: too much alcohol (at least a bottle of dry red wine a day, but the red spanish wined are so sooooo good smile ), tried some smoked spanish jamboon with E200 and E250 preservatives that did
not go well. Also i've found coffee and lager beer to be offending on this period.

Arrived at home, now i'll be back to my old routine, i guess i will be able to return to normal in about 1-2 months.


34. Some rheumys say AS stage 1-2 some others say USpA
Also UC - rectocolitis.

UC curently in remission since feb 2011.
AS/USpA remission march-aug 2011. Flare - sept-nov 2011 (antibiotics). Remission now...

Modified NSD/SCD. Cook your own !
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Mesalazine-Salofalk 500 mg/day

And the list of my medication has become verry short after some years on this diet smile
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Those Es - blasted preservatives *always do a number on me. Sigh. Red wine no probs, but beer and the Es, Oh-Oh.

Recover soon -


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Sorry you're suffering like that. Especially after you know how good you can feel. It just sucks that we can't screw up a little bit without a huge price to pay! I also did a round of antibiotics and feel it set me back and I haven't really recovered from it and that was in July. You're not alone frown


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I know what you mean about the antibiotics. I am so sensitive to them, when I take them it's like eating a ton of starch. They say taking charcoal tablets may help when taking antibiotics. I haven't tried it yet, but I thought you might want to know in case there is ever a next time.
Sorry your having a setback , you are an inspiration. I try to stick with the nsd, but after a few days I get grumpy and always fudge a little. I would like to have the self discipline like you and stick with it, as it does give me great relief- more than any medicine I have tried.

Hope you get better soon,

Sheri


Diet change has improved my RA. I feel best eating raw veggies and some fruits and avoiding grains, sugars, nightshades, beans and dairy. Sed rate dropped from 65 to 19, but it took over a year.
www.fatsickandnearlydead.com

excess fat/oils = pain for me
recipes for raw food on Youtube "raw food romance"
and "healing josephine" Josephine is in remission from RA after two years by change diet/exercise
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