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#475703 08/24/12 10:17 PM
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Well, there you go.

HDL = 52
LDL = 438

A wonderful 9 to 1 ratio.

Triglycerides = 205.

Um, holy [*bleep*]? Here it is: I've been on NSD for 9 months, and the last 6 weeks I've been eating almost exclusively meat, fish, cheddar cheese, butter, cooked zucchini, cream. All meat and dairy has been from good, grass-fed sources.

I used to eat lots of salads, but cut those out about 8 weeks ago when my stomach went to Hell and I couldn't handle food anymore. Turns out per my stool test that I've got three bad guys living in me: H Pylori, camposomething, and bactosomething. I'm taking antibiotics right now to try and kill them.

Anyhow, emotionally and mentally, I feel awesome on my extremely high fat, moderate protein, no carb protocol. I wake up clearheaded, I feel alert and attentive, my sleep is good, I don't have major energy swings, etc.

But these cholesterol numbers? I mean, eating a slab of butter on 6 oz of cheese for a snack (which I often do) is not gonna lower my cholesterol, but my ND has never seen numbers this high.

What do you guys think?

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Also of importance: my C-reactive Protein was ~ 3.7 before NSD, and now is 0.6

My back has never felt better.

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you are way too much into the risk zone (ldl and triglicerides...)


34. Some rheumys say AS stage 1-2 some others say USpA
Also UC - rectocolitis.

UC curently in remission since feb 2011.
AS/USpA remission march-aug 2011. Flare - sept-nov 2011 (antibiotics). Remission now...

Modified NSD/SCD. Cook your own !
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Mesalazine-Salofalk 500 mg/day

And the list of my medication has become verry short after some years on this diet smile
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Hello, Steven_Smiles:


Although I am happy to hear about Your success with the NSD, I am also frustrated as You are that You may have traded one problem for another!

Although the NSD is considered a "high protein" diet, it does not need to be. And You have Your own version that has turned it into a "high fat" regimen!

Neither approach is particularly healthy, long-term, and some fasting should be done to eliminate the 'dross' of liver fats and then a diet that is moderate should be instituted.

I get the buttered cheese as a main course, but I have to continually remind myself with my little rhyme: "Butter and cheese are condiments PLEASE!"

Yes, it is first important to eliminate the unwanted guests, but replace them by "implanting" more beneficial gut flora: Use Stonyfield Farms or Brown Cow yoghurt in 'medicinal' quantities (about 2oz twice daily).

You need more enzymes to help process the foods You are eating, and these are from "live" foods especially alfalfa sprouts and bean sprouts, but very ripe fruit and especially the yoghurt has a good complement of enzymes.

Regret the high numbers, but add things like broccoli (with a teeny amount of Myzithra cheese "riced" over the top of it) as a main course. Then some protein side dishes, but important to get nuts also back into Your diet. However, after the antibiotics it is best to go easy on them and certain raw foods like salads until the gut heals.

Really, I am recommending a strict fast for cleansing after the antibiotic treatments, then study the digestive tract and add non-starchy thing to help rebuild the mucosa. And notice how the AS relents even more while taking the antibiotics, but be careful with these; they are a two-edged sword.

Please let us know Your improved numbers in future--and whether You could avoid statin drugs and maybe "guggol" could help.

But if You don't already have Carol Sinclair's book, be sure to obtain it and get some better variety back in Your diet which should be both alkalizing and laxative.

HEALTH,
John

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Steven, did you get liver enzyme results?

I wasn't looking for this, but just came across it. Psyllium husk powder is the best fiber for lowering cholesterol levels.


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For numbers that high, I would get a second test to confirm any problem.


AS symptoms started 1991. Official dx in 2006 with HLA-B27+, fused SIJ, bone spurs in back, extreme rib/hip pain, and other family with SpA. Started Enbrel in 2006 with good results, but stopped in 2010 due to nerve damage (MS) from it. Getting good results with no-starch diet since 2011.
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hey Steve,

Hard to throw out veggies and fruits... that helps to explain the numbers.

Where do you live? Look into colonics... clear up bacterial issues in intestins much better than antibiotics.

They would probably allow you to incorporate veggies and fruits back in as well.

Tim


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I'm curious Steve...what are the other bacteria you have in addition to H Pylori? My husband is having some gastritis type issues but has only been tested for H Pylori (twice) and the tests were negative.


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Hey, Chelsea:

Hope Jon is doing well otherwise and can get this gut issue treated properly.

Seems like Bacteroides spp. and Campylobacter jejuni I would guess.

Hope they treat it with an anti-Kp antibiotic!

I was developing a terrible stomach thing--it was really awful in fact the smell when I burped was like rancid cigar smoke (and I HATE that stuff). I took a considerable amount of ozonated water, and some colloidal silver and this has not returned (knock wood) in over a year now.

Best to You both,
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hi Kiwi,

I always just assumed that my gastritis was just part of my spondyloarthropathy.

But then when I found I was allergic / sensitive to casein and stopped all cow dairy, my gastritis has improved tremendously, to the point that i can have daily caffeinated tea (green, oolong, or black) and the caffeine no longer flares my gastritis.

Wonder if its something similar for your husband?

I too was tested for h. pylori, but it too was negative. We still did the antibiotic treatment (me and my husband) in 1990, but it did no good because that was not our problem(s).

Hope he figures it out soon.



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