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Thanks Robin - Better still this morning but not easy to describe unless to a fellow sufferer . getting up and about is not an easy time - anyone reading knows its a symptom of AS . No less for me . It is now 'out of pain' but not without what I can only describe as unpleasant stiffness. It doesn't last long but for a little while I have the stiff gait of an automaton . That's also noticeably on the decline. This morning I spent very little time sitting . It needs more time to be sure but as far as I can tell that's improving quickly too ! Its a real pleasure being 'pain free' If getting up also becomes more of a pleasure and less of a chore I'll be a very happy bunny indeed. That isn't to say I'm not absolutely delighted with 'me now' compared to 'me five months ago' I just wish I could wave a magic wand for everyone else. Something's working for me here and so I'll just keep doing it ! Blessings on you all I wish you the same luck somewhere along the line - Duncan